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Old 01-21-2019, 01:41 PM   #1
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Can we say for sure that Brady didn't see the flag? If he did, maybe the play goes differently w/o it.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:14 PM   #2
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Marcus Peters would have at least tried to fight the ref, not Dee Ford! Even if after the game...
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Hmmmmmmmm...

Looking at the NFL's own rule book, I'd say one official decided to change the outcome of the game because you can't call one and at least not call the other.

Sorry Dee Ford, you should post this image and a copy of the NFL's rule book all over Social Media...

From: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

PLAYER ON LINE
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B’s goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
(c) if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the belt line of the snapper.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:39 PM   #4
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Hmmmmmmmm...

Looking at the NFL's own rule book, I'd say one official decided to change the outcome of the game because you can't call one and at least not call the other.

Sorry Dee Ford, you should post this image and a copy of the NFL's rule book all over Social Media...

From: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

PLAYER ON LINE
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B’s goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
(c) if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the belt line of the snapper.
So they could have called offensive tackle not lined up correctly and at worst it is an offsetting penalty?
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:43 PM   #5
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So they could have called offensive tackle not lined up correctly and at worst it is an offsetting penalty?
Yes, illegal formation. But Patriots... Tackles like to inch back as much as they can to not get beat, in this case the Pat was cheating and the official let him.
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Old 01-21-2019, 02:42 PM   #6
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Hmmmmmmmm...

Looking at the NFL's own rule book, I'd say one official decided to change the outcome of the game because you can't call one and at least not call the other.

Sorry Dee Ford, you should post this image and a copy of the NFL's rule book all over Social Media...

From: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

PLAYER ON LINE
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B’s goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
(c) if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the belt line of the snapper.
I think here's the relevant thing: a player, after he has received a warning, enters into the neutral zone. It is a foul, even if he returns to a legal position prior to the snap without contacting an opponent or causing a reaction (movement) by an offensive player in close proximity.
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Old 08-01-2019, 02:33 PM   #7
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Hmmmmmmmm...

Looking at the NFL's own rule book, I'd say one official decided to change the outcome of the game because you can't call one and at least not call the other.

Sorry Dee Ford, you should post this image and a copy of the NFL's rule book all over Social Media...

From: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

PLAYER ON LINE
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B’s goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
(c) if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the belt line of the snapper.
The blue line isn't official either. You can tell the tv blue line is a bit past the ball. So it's not as egregious as it first appeared. But you know. What's past is past. He gone. Greener pastures and all.
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Old 08-01-2019, 02:46 PM   #8
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The blue line isn't official either. You can tell the tv blue line is a bit past the ball. So it's not as egregious as it first appeared. But you know. What's past is past. He gone. Greener pastures and all.
The fact is it still stings. And knowing the NFL has built-in buffers of calling things one way, but not the other, still sucks for fans of less-favored teams. Remember the Steeler game a few years back, and all the non-calls we sufferd. Yeah, still stings.

Let's hope drafting Mahomes is the magic that puts us in with the cool "gets calls" (and non-calls) crowd.
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Old 08-01-2019, 11:10 PM   #9
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Hmmmmmmmm...

Looking at the NFL's own rule book, I'd say one official decided to change the outcome of the game because you can't call one and at least not call the other.

Sorry Dee Ford, you should post this image and a copy of the NFL's rule book all over Social Media...

From: http://static.nfl.com/static/content...efinitions.pdf

PLAYER ON LINE
Article 2 A Player of Team A is on his line:
(a) when his shoulders face Team B’s goal line, and
(b) if he is the snapper, no part of his body is beyond the line at the snap,
(c) if he is a non-snapper, his helmet must break the vertical plane that passes through the belt line of the snapper.
This is would be wording for if the offensive player is lined up on the LOS or not.

Section 20 Neutral Zone, Start of Neutral Zone, and Encroaching
NEUTRAL ZONE
The Neutral Zone is the space between the forward and backward points of the ball (planes). It starts when the ball is ready for
play. (See neutral zone infraction, 7-4-4)
ENCROACHING
A player is Encroaching (7-4-3) on the neutral zone when any part of his body is in it and contact occurs prior to the snap. The
official must blow his whistle immediately.
Section 21 Offside
OFFSIDE
A player is Offside when any part of his body or his person is in the neutral zone, or is beyond the free kick line, or fair catch
kick line, when the ball is put in play.
Exceptions: The snapper may be in the neutral zone provided he is not beyond the line (3-18-2).
The holder of a placekick for a free kick may be beyond the free kick line (6-1-3-b-1).
The holder of a fair catch kick may be beyond the fair catch kick line (11-4-3).
The kicker may be beyond the line, but his kicking foot may not be (6-1-3-b-2).

I noticed him lining up in the neutral zone all season. Surprised it wasn't called more, just sucks it cost the team a Super Bowl appearance.
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Waiting for the NFL purists and excuse makers to tell me I'm wrong, it's a bad angle, or they weren't much illegally lined up...
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It seems that the Chiefs player lack a certain level of football IQ or the coaches simply are unable to communicate (coach) what they want. All night long, the Patriots were in the proper alignment, called the right plays and made tackles and just as predicably, the Chiefs were not.
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It seems that the Chiefs player lack a certain level of football IQ or the coaches simply are unable to communicate (coach) what they want. All night long, the Patriots were in the proper alignment, called the right plays and made tackles and just as predicably, the Chiefs were not.
Well it might have been where the coaches wanted them, but I provided evidence that they were in an illegal alignment...

But hey, NFL officiating giveth (to the favored), and NFL officiating taketh away (from the non-so-favored)...

But yes, our players certainly appear to think tackling is optional. That is true.
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Kyle Shanahan said Dee Ford was suffering from knee tendonitis today and sat out the team portion of practice. It’s not considered serious and sounds like something Ford overcomes yearly. #49ers
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Kyle Shanahan said Dee Ford was suffering from knee tendonitis today and sat out the team portion of practice. It’s not considered serious and sounds like something Ford overcomes yearly. #49ers
Wow.. he really needs that knee to get a good jump at the snap of the ball..
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Wow.. he really needs that knee to line up offsides of the ball..
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