***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

My mom went through something similar for a little more than 2 years. People with dementia can be angry, confused and lost, all within 20 seconds.

She was at the nursing home 3 times a day because the people working there (and it wasn't cheap - it was $9k per month) didn't provide the type of care she needed regarding food and meds.

I hate to say it but a great weight was lifted when she passed at age 91 because it was destroying my mom, too.

We had a similar situation. I was in 2nd grade when all this went down, so I didn't really understand.

But it was a noticeable thing with dad. I can't imagine going thru that. I've talked to my mom about it recently and I think the thing that bothered my dad the most was that sense of relief when she passed and that he felt that way about his mother.

[lewdog]

I’m thinking of having one, single beer this afternoon due to KCChiefsfan88’s posts and literature on the benefits of alcohol.

Thoughts?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m thinking of having one, single beer this afternoon due to KCChiefsfan88’s posts and literature on the benefits of alcohol.

Thoughts?

You still feeling ok?

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m thinking of having one, single beer this afternoon due to KCChiefsfan88’s posts and literature on the benefits of alcohol.

Thoughts?

Shot of tequila. Don't be a candyass.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m thinking of having one, single beer this afternoon due to KCChiefsfan88’s posts and literature on the benefits of alcohol.

Thoughts?

If you’re going to have one, make sure it’s a good brand and not some crappy hipster millennial beer like PBR.

[O.city]

https://pubmed.ncbi..nih.gov/26954467/

This is about Sars Cov 1 but it would be reasonable to expect this one to be similar I would think so that would be nice.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

You still feeling ok?

Mild sore throat last night and some nasal congestion this morning. It passed by 9 am and I feel fine. Worked out lifting weights 1 hour and walked 2.5 miles. Swimming this afternoon.

I’m on day 8 since exposure.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Mild sore throat last night and some nasal congestion this morning. It passed by 9 am and I feel fine. Worked out lifting weights 1 hour and walked 2.5 miles. Swimming this afternoon.

I’m on day 8 since exposure.

So like a normal allergy type of thing?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

So like a normal allergy type of thing?

Yeah feels exactly like that to me. I’ve had it off and on all week but that’s very normal for me.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Spott

If you’re going to have one, make sure it’s a good brand and not some crappy hipster millennial beer like PBR.

I’m not a low rent piece of shit like Pete, man!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

I’m not a low rent piece of shit like Pete, man!

Now why you gotta go there, bitch?


Hope you're feeling okay, lou....


**** you, lou

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Yeah feels exactly like that to me. I’ve had it off and on all week but that’s very normal for me.

That's good atleast it's not hitting you badly. Makes you wonder just how many damn people out there are in a similar situation.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

That's good atleast it's not hitting you badly. Makes you wonder just how many damn people out there are in a similar situation.

Being on day 8 since exposure makes me feel pretty optimistic about my final result.

I’d have never know without the required testing due to other staff with symptoms.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Being on day 8 since exposure makes me feel pretty optimistic about my final result.

I’d have never know without the required testing due to other staff with symptoms.

Do you know any of the results of the others they tested?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

Do you know any of the results of the others they tested?

Yes. 4 more therapists (6 total now) and a total of 5 nurses.