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Old 08-08-2018, 04:00 PM   #1
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The Raiders cut kicker Giorgio Telvecchio and the rumor is Gruden cut him because he's left footed and finding a holder for him is difficult when all the other kickers they have are right footed.

This sounds really ****ing dumb.
We cut the Italian Cannon because we signed the Florida duo as punter/kicker/holder. The previous holder was King who held for the lefty kickers Giorgio and Jano. That trio has departed so it makes no sense to keep the average Giorgio around. We have a righty holder and kicker now.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:26 AM   #2
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We cut the Italian Cannon because we signed the Florida duo as punter/kicker/holder. The previous holder was King who held for the lefty kickers Giorgio and Jano. That trio has departed so it makes no sense to keep the average Giorgio around. We have a righty holder and kicker now.
We also signed another right footed veteran kicker who's been pretty decent in Mike Nugent.

I think the desperation of Chiefs fan for Gruden to fail is pretty damn funny. I guess some of you are old enough to remember the whippings the Raiders put on KC while he was coach?

To be fair, I'm not convinced Gruden II will work out, but he's ten times the coach Del Rio was/is.
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:23 AM   #3
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We also signed another right footed veteran kicker who's been pretty decent in Mike Nugent.

I think the desperation of Chiefs fan for Gruden to fail is pretty damn funny. I guess some of you are old enough to remember the whippings the Raiders put on KC while he was coach?

To be fair, I'm not convinced Gruden II will work out, but he's ten times the coach Del Rio was/is.

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Old 08-09-2018, 09:08 AM   #4
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Old 08-09-2018, 07:44 AM   #6
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We also signed another right footed veteran kicker who's been pretty decent in Mike Nugent.

I think the desperation of Chiefs fan for Gruden to fail is pretty damn funny. I guess some of you are old enough to remember the whippings the Raiders put on KC while he was coach?

To be fair, I'm not convinced Gruden II will work out, but he's ten times the coach Del Rio was/is.
Right. But Del Rio didn’t have personnel control
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Old 08-09-2018, 08:45 AM   #7
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Right. But Del Rio didn’t have personnel control
That is exactly the problem for the Raiders. McKenzie was doing a really good job of building that squad with very reasonable contracts. And with Gruden at least having his hands in the personnel decisions, that is likely to get screwed up.

This was a classic Al Davis bone-head play.
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Right. But Del Rio didn’t have personnel control
That is probably not entirely correct. Del Rio got the players he wanted.
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