Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-26-2021, 12:58 PM  
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $4393447
Guys, it's not negotiable. You need to give Mahomes premium weapons in your mocks.

The Bucs were probably going to win the Super Bowl no matter what, but we are deluding ourselves if we are creating mock offseasons that don't give Mahomes at least 2 more premium weapons.

We routinely get excellent mock offseasons on this forum, and this week has been no exception, but c'mon.

You need to either give Mahomes a top flight #2 and #3 receiving option, or you need to give him a top flight #2 WR and a top flight #2 TE.

Teams are going to throw all their resources at Kelce and Hill in 2021. You can't snag one really good WR and wipe your hands clean of the problem -- you need multiple tertiary options because someone's going to get injured in or around 2021.

I know there's a ton of needs, but protecting Mahomes and giving him more weapons need to be at the top of the list, and if your mock offseason doesn't, it's not passing the smell test here.

Last edited by Direckshun; 02-26-2021 at 02:21 PM..
Posts: 59,262
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 10:40 AM   #31
el borracho el borracho is offline
In Pat We Trust
 
el borracho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Casino cash: $6399148
Fisher just turned 30. He may miss significant time this year and he may or may not be the same player in the future. If I am reading things correctly, he counts 15 million against the cap this year.

In essence, he is an expensive, aging player that may or may not come back to form. You would be taking an expensive leap of faith to keep him and/ or extend him. I won't lose my mind if that happens, but I would prefer the Chiefs find a more permanent, less expensive solution.
Posts: 11,824
el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 10:49 AM   #32
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6106719
Adding a wr that can get open, make people miss and break tackles will also help in zone coverage. A short quick pass that can be turned into a long gain will help protect the oline and keep mahomes upright. Who do we have that can do that now besides hill and kelce?
Posts: 2,353
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 10:51 AM   #33
MahomesMagic MahomesMagic is offline
Generational Player
 
MahomesMagic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
Casino cash: $4160400
This guy runs routes like Justin Jefferson, Terry Mclaurin.

Posts: 1,878
MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 10:56 AM   #34
el borracho el borracho is offline
In Pat We Trust
 
el borracho's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Casino cash: $6399148
By the way, I don't see the situation as an "either-or" situation. I hope the Chiefs address both OL and WR in the draft.
Posts: 11,824
el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.el borracho wants to die in a aids tree fire.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 11:09 AM   #35
MahomesMagic MahomesMagic is offline
Generational Player
 
MahomesMagic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
Casino cash: $4160400
Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
By the way, I don't see the situation as an "either-or" situation. I hope the Chiefs address both OL and WR in the draft.
I want an OL and a weapon in the 1st 3 picks.
Posts: 1,878
MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 11:17 AM   #36
kcbubb kcbubb is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6106719
Rondale Moore > toney for what we need in breaking tackles after short passes against zone coverage.
Posts: 2,353
kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.kcbubb < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 12:32 PM   #37
In58men In58men is online now
Baba Ganoush
 
In58men's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2012
Casino cash: $2308026
Per Source: Bateman ran a 4.37 hand time and a 4.39 laser at the Exos combine.

*Rashod Bateman is not slow
__________________
My Kansas City Chief record 9-9
Posts: 29,187
In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.In58men is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 01:13 PM   #38
MahomesMagic MahomesMagic is offline
Generational Player
 
MahomesMagic's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2017
Location: Honolulu
Casino cash: $4160400
Quote:
Originally Posted by In58men View Post
Per Source: Bateman ran a 4.37 hand time and a 4.39 laser at the Exos combine.

*Rashod Bateman is not slow
Posts: 1,878
MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.MahomesMagic has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 01:25 PM   #39
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
By the way, I don't see the situation as an "either-or" situation. I hope the Chiefs address both OL and WR in the draft.
Exactly.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 01:26 PM   #40
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
'Tis my eye!
 
htismaqe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
Casino cash: $10269900
Quote:
Originally Posted by el borracho View Post
Fisher just turned 30. He may miss significant time this year and he may or may not be the same player in the future. If I am reading things correctly, he counts 15 million against the cap this year.

In essence, he is an expensive, aging player that may or may not come back to form. You would be taking an expensive leap of faith to keep him and/ or extend him. I won't lose my mind if that happens, but I would prefer the Chiefs find a more permanent, less expensive solution.
Right now, we don't even know the extent of his injury. It's a bit premature to say he might miss significant time or may not be the same.

I honestly am going to trust whatever they do. If they take a tackle, great. If they don't, great.

They've earned the benefit of the doubt.
Posts: 100,022
htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.htismaqe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 02:44 PM   #41
Bowser Bowser is online now
sorta mod-ish
 
Bowser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
Casino cash: $3461616
<----- Solidly on board the "sign Kenny Golladay and draft Hunter Long so we can draft line help" train.
Posts: 100,608
Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 04:02 PM   #42
The Franchise The Franchise is offline
Most Valuable Villain
 
The Franchise's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Casino cash: $3125047
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowser View Post
<----- Solidly on board the "sign Kenny Golladay and draft Hunter Long so we can draft line help" train.
Golladay is going to get franchised and then you’ll have to trade for him.
Posts: 92,102
The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.The Franchise is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 05:33 PM   #43
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Casino cash: $3257078
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
What are you going to do if the long-term answer at the OT spots are Fisher and Niang?
Depends on how the board actually falls and we still have FA.

Theoretically, my first look would be to see what's there at ER and DB.

There's a list in my head of guys I think are good picks in 1.

WR: Will Bateman or Toney be there at 31? I doubt it. Would I take any of the other WRs in round 1? Probably not. We obviously assume Chase, Smith, and Waddle are off the board early.

LB: There are 3 LBs that are round 1 players in my mind, Parsons, Koramoah, and Collins. I don't see how any of the 3 are there. I'd take one of them if they were.

ER: I've been most vocal about an edge, much more so than OL. I like Rousseau, Paye, Ojulari, Perkins, and Tryon in round 1. Some like Oweh, Phillips, and Jones that high, I don't. I think if there was one to take a chance on at 31 of those 3, it's probably Oweh. I think those are guys to target in a trade down.

DT: The only one I'd personally want the Chiefs to go after in 1 would be Barmore if he fell. It's not that I don't like some others, but I wouldn't do it in 1.

DB: This is probably the position I'd look hardest at without an ER or OL there that makes sense. Greg Newsome II and Asante Samuel Jr. would be the 2 that would be most appealing to me at CB and Moehrig at SS. Moehrig is a guy I think maybe I've had slotted too low. He's easily the best safety in this draft and they tend to at least go in the 15-20 range, so he may not be around when we pick. No other safety makes sense that early. CB is the other position that's a bit light this year. Behind Farley, Horn, and Surtain, things are going to get interesting as all 3 of those guys probably go in the top 20 picks. If Newsome is there, I'd have some pause.


OL: Coming back around to OLine, I'd have to give serious consideration to two guards - Alijah Vera-Tucker and Wyatt Davis. Wyatt Davis is incredibly good at RG and a 1st-Team All-American for a reason. There really isn't a hole in his game. His grandfather is a Hall of Famer, if you want bloodlines. Vera-Tucker can obviously swing out to tackle in a pinch and better served on the left side. So pick your favorite.


I bet there's the question "if you are willing to trade so far up for a LT, are you willing to do it for another player?"

Sure. I think if we're talking about Paye or Rousseau falling to the teens its something to look at hard. I wouldn't do it for another position. LT or DE. That's it.

I'm not a huge fan of trading down, but would I do it? I think this is the year to do it if there's not a lot of value sitting there at 31. I think, if you trade down 10-15 spots, you're hitting a sweet spot for some of the other WRs like Marshall, St. Brown, Wallace, Moore, and so forth. I think you're also putting yourself in a great position for a Center like Myers, Humphrey, or Dickerson. I think a couple of the Edge guys I mentioned are there. So too could be a couple good DTs like Nixon, Owuzurike and Tufele
Posts: 12,623
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2021, 05:56 PM   #44
Bowser Bowser is online now
sorta mod-ish
 
Bowser's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: KC North
Casino cash: $3461616
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Franchise View Post
Golladay is going to get franchised and then you’ll have to trade for him.
Marvin Jones Jr., then. Detroit can't franchise both of them.
Posts: 100,608
Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bowser is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2021, 09:00 AM   #45
Coogs Coogs is offline
In Search of a Life
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Northern Kansas
Casino cash: $1624349
https://youtu.be/fKQJZPVUkWk

Jonathan Adams. 6-3, 220 form Arkansas State. Watched him destroy KSU early last year. It wasn't a one game fluke either. Could be a mid to late round steal that would allow other positions to be addressed early, and still get a legit weapon for Mahomes.


Last edited by Coogs; 02-28-2021 at 09:05 AM..
Posts: 21,608
Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Coogs is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:08 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.