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Old 04-14-2017, 07:49 PM  
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****Official 2017 NBA Playoffs Thread****
The real season begins.

Round 1:

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#8 Bulls @ #1 Celtics
#7 Pacers @ #2 Cavs
#6 Bucks @ #3 Raptors
#5 Hawks @ #4 Wizards

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#8 Blazers @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Thunder @ #3 Rockets
#5 Jazz @ #4 Clippers
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:31 PM   #1111
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Old 06-01-2017, 02:39 PM   #1112
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Birdman is worth 20 lebrons on and off the court.
Regular season career-
LeBron: 115.9 VORP, 9.1 BPM, .239 WS/48, 205.4 WS, 27.6 PER, .584 TS%, 35.0 AST%, 10.9 TRB%, 2.2 STL%, 1.6 BLK%

Bird: 79.7 VORP, 7.2 BPM, .203 WS/48, 145.8 WS, 23.5 PER, .564 TS%, 24.7 AST%, 14.5 TRB%, 2.2 STL%, 1.2 BLK%

Postseason career-
LeBron: 28.6 VORP, 10.7 BPM, .242 WS/48, 44.9 WS, 27.8 PER, .573 TS%, 33.5 AST%, 12.6 TRB%, 2.3 STL%, 1.9 BLK%

Bird: 15.4 VORP, 6.9 BPM, .173 WS/48, 24.8 WS, 21.4 PER, .551 TS%, 23.7 AST%, 13.9 TRB%, 2.1 STL%, 1.2 BLK%
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Old 06-01-2017, 03:01 PM   #1113
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Stupidity around here never amazes me.
Nothing makes me more confident than you and PGM being on the opposite side of the arguement, my man.

And KC to LJ and Batista is like knowMo to Denver. He has their balls super glued to his chin. Not much objectivity there.
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Old 06-01-2017, 03:38 PM   #1114
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Regular season career-
LeBron: 115.9 VORP, 9.1 BPM, .239 WS/48, 205.4 WS, 27.6 PER, .584 TS%, 35.0 AST%, 10.9 TRB%, 2.2 STL%, 1.6 BLK%

Bird: 79.7 VORP, 7.2 BPM, .203 WS/48, 145.8 WS, 23.5 PER, .564 TS%, 24.7 AST%, 14.5 TRB%, 2.2 STL%, 1.2 BLK%

Postseason career-
LeBron: 28.6 VORP, 10.7 BPM, .242 WS/48, 44.9 WS, 27.8 PER, .573 TS%, 33.5 AST%, 12.6 TRB%, 2.3 STL%, 1.9 BLK%

Bird: 15.4 VORP, 6.9 BPM, .173 WS/48, 24.8 WS, 21.4 PER, .551 TS%, 23.7 AST%, 13.9 TRB%, 2.1 STL%, 1.2 BLK%
When you get to thinking statistics tell you about greatness you will find yourself wrong a lot.
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Old 06-01-2017, 03:52 PM   #1115
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LeBron has to guard Durant, right?

Curry and Klay are going to make short work of Kyrie and Love.
Haven't thought about that. Yikes.
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:07 PM   #1116
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I imagine Klay guards Irving and Curry will be on JR
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Old 06-01-2017, 04:21 PM   #1118
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Curry has turned into the best offensive weapon of his generation. But I'd agree Irving isn't as far behind as it's being painted here. He had a great year. Averaged 25 a game, set career highs for FG%, FT% and threes made. He's an elite offensive player. For some reason people always bag on LeBron's teammates as inferior. It's not like he's playing with scrubs. Curry's season last year though sent him into a different stratosphere.
lol I'll take Irving over curry every single time
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Irving is a better defender than curry and that's where he gains advantage
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:24 PM   #1120
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Regular Season Win Shares - 12.6
Regular Season Win Shares Per 48 minutes - .229
Regular Season Value Over Replacement - 6.2
Playoffs Win Shares - 2.5
Playoffs Win Shares Per 48 minutes - .287
Playoffs Value Over Replacement - 1.4

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Regular Season Win Shares - 8.9
Regular Season Win Shares Per 48 minutes - .170
Regular Season Value Over Replacement - 2.9
Playoffs Win Shares - 1.8
Playoffs Win Shares Per 48 minutes - .193
Playoffs Value Over Replacement - .5

Yeah no difference in all between the two. Freaking idiots.
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:26 PM   #1121
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Old 06-01-2017, 06:29 PM   #1122
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Irving can have all the career years he wants, it's still not going to put him anywhere close to Stephen Curry as a basketball player. I could cite how far apart statistically they are, but one look at either's Basketball Reference page would tell you that much too.
I'd take Curry 10/10, but you guys acting like Irving is dog crap is a complete joke. Irving is a very good offensive player.

He had an all-time game 5 last year when the Cavs were down 3-1. Then he had 23 in game 6 and 26 in game 7, including the clutch three pointer over Curry to clinch a championship. If that's not a great performance then there's no point in arguing about any of this.
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