Football Andrew Luck Retires - Page 47

Urc Burry · 08-24-2019, 07:30 PM

Filed to ESPN: Andrew Luck has informed the Colts he is retiring from the NFL, per source. There will be a press conference Sunday to make it official, but Luck is mentally worn down, and now checking out.

Per schefter

chiefzilla1501 · 08-26-2019, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Luck hadn't practiced this year and was probably going to go on IR. He may not have even played this season.

I guess he could have half ass rehabbed and got paid so not to upset some snowflakes though.

Good lord, what is wrong with people. Its not even like we're talking about a terrible qb or an asshole. He's been nothing but class, great leader, and unlike some players we've bagged on an excellent player too. Indy fans are trying to act like this guy is Lebron. I get if people are upset but it is insane to be this butthurt over it.

Setsuna · 08-26-2019, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol at comparing football to Gladiators. Horrible comparison... Talk about exaggeration

I appreciate your opinion on the matter and reject it completely. Thanks for playing though!

Megatron96 · 08-26-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol at comparing football to Gladiators. Horrible comparison... Talk about exaggeration

Never mind that football has been compared to the gladiator arena from its inception, or that countless /books/papers have been written about the similarities between the two from virtually every conceivable point of view . . .

Apparently you know next to nothing about either.

However, it's patently obvious that you're reaction is exactly the same kind of "perform or die," attitude that the "fans" of the gladiator arenas exhibited in ancient Rome 2,000 and more years ago.

PAChiefsGuy · 08-26-2019, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96

Never mind that football has been compared to the gladiator arena from its inception, or that countless /books/papers have been written about the similarities between the two from virtually every conceivable point of view . . .

Apparently you know next to nothing about either.

However, it's patently obvious that you're reaction is exactly the same kind of "perform or die," attitude that the "fans" of the gladiator arenas exhibited in ancient Rome 2,000 and more years ago.

What the hell are you talking about? Gladiators were criminals who fought to the death sometimes against wild animals like lions and tigers. Football players dont do anything even close to that. Boxing/UFC is more like gladiators than football is but even that is a stretch.

Acting like Andrew Luck is a gladiator is ridiculous. He plays a violent sport sure but he is no gladiator. He's a QB who didnt want to go through rehab so he retired.

Hoopsdoc · 08-26-2019, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Somebody apparently slashed Lucks tires. Good grief.

Where did you see this? Not saying you’re wrong, I just haven’t been able to find anything on it.

Skyy God · 08-26-2019, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Where did you see this? Not saying you’re wrong, I just haven’t been able to find anything on it.

https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/...rement-tweets/

Garbage fat hump fans.

Megatron96 · 08-26-2019, 03:44 PM

Let me begin by saying that I'm not even a Luck fan. My brother is, which is why I've watched him over the years, and have grown to respect and admire his game and his sportsmanship.

Empirically, gladiators (not all gladiators were criminals, but let's skip that part for now) were meat thrown into a meat grinder for the amusement of the masses.

To a degree, NFL football players are subject to a similar set of experiences. They play the most violent sport in modern history for a fan base that only cares about how they perform. As soon as a player doesn't perform they way the fans want them to, it's "get rid of him," "he's trash," "I'm going to burn his jersey," etc.

In other words, the same zero tolerance for 'weakness,' or poor performance that ancient Roman fans exhibited for their gladiators. But don't take my word for it, just use yourself and some others in this thread and your rants in this thread as examples.

To drive the point home, NFL players suffer serious to life-threatening injuries every year. How many players have had spinal injuries that cost them not only their places on their teams, but also their livelihoods, and even the use of their legs and arms? How many have committed suicide for what we now call CTE? Do you think Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, and the countless other retired players move and walk the way they do because they think it's cool?

All for the purpose of entertainment. Our entertainment.

Tell me again how there's no comparison between the physical and psychological experiences of ancient gladiators and today's NFL players.

As for Luck himself, you've said that he's fragile in both body and mind, that he doesn't care about the team/his teammates/the fans, which is the exact opposite of every act, every play, every interview that he's been involved in.

For example, Luck through his first five seasons was one of the most sacked QBs in the NFL, 165. Oh, and he was also hit about 400 times over that span. Further, it's important to note that in 2015 he only played 7 games, or half the season, and yet still was sacked 15 times,hit 35+ times. Had he played the entire season those number would've easily been doubled.

And yet, in spite of being sacked and hit at a historic rate, he played all 16 games in each of his first three seasons, taking the Colts to three 11-win seasons, with almost no help from his team.

He played through a lacerated kidney (if you've never had an injury to a kidney, trust me, it really hurts), and managed to actually win that game.

His 2015 season was cut short by the team doctors, because they feared for his long-term health. Never mind playing the next game or the next season. But he didn't sideline himself; the team made that decision for him.

So much for not being mentally tough.

He was sidelined in 2017 for his shoulder, which hurt every time he threw the ball. But he rehabbed "harder than anyone they'd ever seen, " according to his trainers, and returned to the field last year, only to have his statistically best season of his career, taking his team to the playoffs yet again, posting a TD total that was second only to Mahomes, 39. And he did that despite the fact that it was obvious that his shoulder was still not 100%.

Somewhere in there he had a serious concussion.

And yet, when questioned about how often he was being hit and sacked, he placed the onus on himself, saying repeatedly that it was probably his fault for holding onto the ball too long trying to make a play. On average, he was holding the ball approximately 0.28 seconds longer than Brady. That's less time that it takes the average person to decide to jam on the brakes in an emergency situation on the road.

In other words, Luck knew his OL was crap, that he didn't have a running game and precious few weapons in his receiving corps. We won't even talk about the D.

One look at the numbers would've told him that. And as a Standord grad, with an architectural degree, someone very comfortable with math, he probably knew the facts of the situation better than 99% of QBs at the time.

But he never complained, never threw his teammates, coaches, management, or anyone in the organization under the bus. He just posted stats that made him statistically one of the top 5 QBs in the league six out of eight seasons.

So stop with the "Luck is made of glass" crap. Anyone that can read and do math can see that your rant about his durability or his mental toughness is categorically ignorant of the facts.

Hoopsdoc · 08-26-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

https://www.totalprosports.com/2019/...rement-tweets/

Garbage fat hump fans.

Right. That’s an interesting site. That labeled the story a “rumor”. Lol.

No reputable and/or local is reporting this.

Until that happens, I’m calling bullshit.

Sassy Squatch · 08-26-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Right. That’s an interesting site. That labeled the story a “rumor”. Lol.

No reputable and/or local is reporting this.

Until that happens, I’m calling bullshit.

I based it on the tweets, not that dumpster fire of a site. If you know that guy that tweeted it initially is full of shit, it's most likely a nonstory.

**Easy 6** · 08-26-2019, 04:27 PM

Don’t feel like going back looking for them, but the rants RealSNR laid on Hoopsdoc were so over the top that I was embarrassed for him while enjoying my coffee this morning

Good Lord, ITS JUST A GAME

I surely have no love for Indy, but it’s not even our team... so there’s absolutely no point in being so blisteringly hot under the collar about it

As for Luck himself... well, bye

I’m already SO over this story

**Baby Lee** · 08-26-2019, 04:43 PM

Not gonna damn Luck, but I ain't gonna lionize him either.

He's a dude who made a business decision.

He played the position that everyone says is the key to winning championships, in a sport where winning championships is the only thing that matters, and he didn't win or even compete in the final for a championship, and he decided to stop.

Good for him, sad for those invested in him. Meh, next.

Entertainment at every level is frivolous. It's what we do with our free time. It can be inspiring or frustrating or even devastating. But in the end, it's what we expend resources on that we gathered through our own work.

There's either a tacit contract that it's about more than the money, and the entertainers and entertained owe EACH OTHER something, or it's just another transaction, and when the money ends so does the entertainment, and vice versa.

Some dude tried, . . . he made progress, . . on the main metric he failed, . . . he got paid, and he's done. . . . End of story, . . . Next up?

-King- · 08-26-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Don’t feel like going back looking for them, but the rants RealSNR laid on Hoopsdoc were so over the top that I was embarrassed for him while enjoying my coffee this morning

Good Lord, ITS JUST A GAME

I surely have no love for Indy, but it’s not even our team... so there’s absolutely no point in being so blisteringly hot under the collar about it

As for Luck himself... well, bye

I’m already SO over this story

This

Flying High D · 08-26-2019, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

It wasn’t Irsay. Jim’s not going to do that and then send Luck off into retirement with a 25 million dollar check.

Good call. Jim Irsay is well known for making logical level headed decisions. Jim would never ever do anything out of the norm.

Skyy God · 08-26-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D

Good call. Jim Irsay is well known for making logical level headed decisions. Jim would never ever do anything out of the norm.

Captain Oxy would never make an irrational decision.

stevieray · 08-26-2019, 09:09 PM

People way too wrapped up in this.

Luck doesn't owe anyone jack shit, other than his family.

You're "lucky" he even held a press conference.

Sometimes social media just sucks the life out of everything.

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Megatron96 Suupraa Geniuuusss Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Phoenix, AZ Casino cash: $1950400	Let me begin by saying that I'm not even a Luck fan. My brother is, which is why I've watched him over the years, and have grown to respect and admire his game and his sportsmanship. Empirically, gladiators (not all gladiators were criminals, but let's skip that part for now) were meat thrown into a meat grinder for the amusement of the masses. To a degree, NFL football players are subject to a similar set of experiences. They play the most violent sport in modern history for a fan base that only cares about how they perform. As soon as a player doesn't perform they way the fans want them to, it's "get rid of him," "he's trash," "I'm going to burn his jersey," etc. In other words, the same zero tolerance for 'weakness,' or poor performance that ancient Roman fans exhibited for their gladiators. But don't take my word for it, just use yourself and some others in this thread and your rants in this thread as examples. To drive the point home, NFL players suffer serious to life-threatening injuries every year. How many players have had spinal injuries that cost them not only their places on their teams, but also their livelihoods, and even the use of their legs and arms? How many have committed suicide for what we now call CTE? Do you think Jim Brown, Earl Campbell, and the countless other retired players move and walk the way they do because they think it's cool? All for the purpose of entertainment. Our entertainment. Tell me again how there's no comparison between the physical and psychological experiences of ancient gladiators and today's NFL players. As for Luck himself, you've said that he's fragile in both body and mind, that he doesn't care about the team/his teammates/the fans, which is the exact opposite of every act, every play, every interview that he's been involved in. For example, Luck through his first five seasons was one of the most sacked QBs in the NFL, 165. Oh, and he was also hit about 400 times over that span. Further, it's important to note that in 2015 he only played 7 games, or half the season, and yet still was sacked 15 times,hit 35+ times. Had he played the entire season those number would've easily been doubled. And yet, in spite of being sacked and hit at a historic rate, he played all 16 games in each of his first three seasons, taking the Colts to three 11-win seasons, with almost no help from his team. He played through a lacerated kidney (if you've never had an injury to a kidney, trust me, it really hurts), and managed to actually win that game. His 2015 season was cut short by the team doctors, because they feared for his long-term health. Never mind playing the next game or the next season. But he didn't sideline himself; the team made that decision for him. So much for not being mentally tough. He was sidelined in 2017 for his shoulder, which hurt every time he threw the ball. But he rehabbed "harder than anyone they'd ever seen, " according to his trainers, and returned to the field last year, only to have his statistically best season of his career, taking his team to the playoffs yet again, posting a TD total that was second only to Mahomes, 39. And he did that despite the fact that it was obvious that his shoulder was still not 100%. Somewhere in there he had a serious concussion. And yet, when questioned about how often he was being hit and sacked, he placed the onus on himself, saying repeatedly that it was probably his fault for holding onto the ball too long trying to make a play. On average, he was holding the ball approximately 0.28 seconds longer than Brady. That's less time that it takes the average person to *decide* to jam on the brakes in an emergency situation on the road. In other words, Luck knew his OL was crap, that he didn't have a running game and precious few weapons in his receiving corps. We won't even talk about the D. One look at the numbers would've told him that. And as a Standord grad, with an architectural degree, someone very comfortable with math, he probably knew the facts of the situation better than 99% of QBs at the time. But he never complained, never threw his teammates, coaches, management, or anyone in the organization under the bus. He just posted stats that made him statistically one of the top 5 QBs in the league six out of eight seasons. So stop with the "Luck is made of glass" crap. Anyone that can read and do math can see that your rant about his durability or his mental toughness is categorically ignorant of the facts. Last edited by Megatron96; 08-26-2019 at 03:50 PM..
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