Welp. Looks like we need a RB.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Somebody did a great analysis of how much worse Fournette being active made the Jags offense and the reason was the Jags compulsion to get 'value' from their high draft pick; it made them more predictable.

Now take that same problem and exacerbate it by taking the ball away from Mahomes instead of Bortles.

Using a premium pick on a RB is a terrible idea. It could very easily make this team actively worse.

Good post.

Not only could it make it worse, there's zero chance it makes it better. The Chiefs HAD that kind of RB in Kareem Hunt and it didn't make a difference. The offense was just as good without him as it was with. People plug their ears and say "na na na" but that's just pure denial. Objectively, the offense was the same without Hunt.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Somebody did a great analysis of how much worse Fournette being active made the Jags offense and the reason was the Jags compulsion to get 'value' from their high draft pick; it made them more predictable.

Now take that same problem and exacerbate it by taking the ball away from Mahomes instead of Bortles.

Using a premium pick on a RB is a terrible idea. It could very easily make this team actively worse.

I don’t disagree, but the presence of D & D Williams allow the Chiefs to not have to invest early for a “bellcow” type. I think a complementary back will be added later in the draft that can act as a change of pace and be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

I’m intrigued by Trayveon Williams. Natural pass catcher, excellent in the screen game, and a competent IZ/OZ runner. Reminds me of a slightly bigger Darren Sproles. He’s probably available in the 5th round....

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I don’t disagree, but the presence of D & D Williams allow the Chiefs to not have to invest early for a “bellcow” type. I think a complementary back will be added later in the draft that can act as a change of pace and be able to catch the ball out of the backfield.

I’m intrigued by Trayveon Williams. Natural pass catcher, excellent in the screen game, and a competent IZ/OZ runner. Reminds me of a slightly bigger Darren Sproles. He’s probably available in the 5th round....

I still think this is a perfect spot to take a gamble on Rodney Anderson late. If the pick busts, who cares? If it doesn't and you can get even a few healthy games or several as a rotational back, Anderson is as talented as any RB in this draft.

It's incredibly stupid to compare him to Fred Taylor because Taylor was a HoF caliber back, but Taylor also had a lot of injury concerns pretty much his whole career and early on, when the Jags needed him healthy, he oftentimes wasn't and it really hurt them when he'd go down.

Later in his career, when MJD got there, they could use him in a rotation with Jones-Drew and it really helped prolong his career and it gave the Jags the depth they needed to keep gambling on Taylor's talent.

Closer to home, you had Okoye and Barry Word. Okoye's style was just so punishing that you knew he'd miss several games every year. That's a hard guy to build around on his own but when you have Barry Word available to back him up, you can sleep comfortably knowing that you can use Okoye to his fullest extent and when he inevitably goes down for a bit, you have a valuable, productive back right behind him.

You can't draft Rodney Anderson expecting him to be your primary ballcarrier for 16 games, but you can take him and hope that he gives you 150 dynamic carries with Williams and Williams in reserve to carry the load when he can't go. And if his career is shorter than most because his injury history - who cares? He's a RB - churn and burn baby.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I still think this is a perfect spot to take a gamble on Rodney Anderson late. If the pick busts, who cares? If it doesn't and you can get even a few healthy games or several as a rotational back, Anderson is as talented as any RB in this draft.

It's incredibly stupid to compare him to Fred Taylor because Taylor was a HoF caliber back, but Taylor also had a lot of injury concerns pretty much his whole career and early on, when the Jags needed him healthy, he oftentimes wasn't and it really hurt them when he'd go down.

Later in his career, when MJD got there, they could use him in a rotation with Jones-Drew and it really helped prolong his career and it gave the Jags the depth they needed to keep gambling on Taylor's talent.

Closer to home, you had Okoye and Barry Word. Okoye's style was just so punishing that you knew he'd miss several games every year. That's a hard guy to build around on his own but when you have Barry Word available to back him up, you can sleep comfortably knowing that you can use Okoye to his fullest extent and when he inevitably goes down for a bit, you have a valuable, productive back right behind him.

You can't draft Rodney Anderson expecting him to be your primary ballcarrier for 16 games, but you can take him and hope that he gives you 150 dynamic carries with Williams and Williams in reserve to carry the load when he can't go. And if his career is shorter than most because his injury history - who cares? He's a RB - churn and burn baby.

Like I said above, I fully expect/Hope that Anderson falls to us because other teams won't want to take a risk on a back that could go down at any time. So with us he'd have the ability to be a rotational back with the Williams bros and could slowly develop whilst not taking too much punishment. Then if he proves his fitness over the entire season then he can get more and more snaps the year after.

[O.city]

The Chiefs are built around the QB now. If they have a RB that's not blind and is decently fast and can catch, they can make due.

If they have an elite RB fall into their lap, sure take one. But don't expand a lot for it.

Pass rushers, Corners, Pass catchers.

[UChieffyBugger]

There's so many decent backs available it's ridiculous.

Wes Hills= intrigues me the most with his size and speed.

Elijah Holyfield= Packs a punch like his father. His running style reminds me of Elliot tbh

Byce Love= Pure speed

Benny Snell= The numbers he's put up are staggering

Dexter Williams= A late riser but seems to do most things well

LJ Scott= Like I mentioned earlier In this thread the kid has La'Veon Bell traits to him.

Jordan Scarlett= Could be the gem of this class If he lands at the right place

Darrel Henderson= Looks like a slightly smaller Kareem Hunt to me

Rodney Anderson= I think he is the one for us but Veach would have to be sure he can stay healthy. Being part of a rotation with the Williams would do him good imo because his talent is not in doubt.

Alexander Mattison= Another young gem In the making

I think Jacobs, Montgomery, Harris and maybe Justice Hill will be taken before we consider a RB tbh. Hell even Bryce Love could be gone by then too.

[duncan_idaho]

I’m not in the “Chiefs must draft a RB high” camp. I don’t want them to change the offense to be more run heavy.

I do think it’s interesting to keep an eye on value.

I do wonder if the Patriots - and other teams - have a tougher time slowing down the Chiefs o like we’d see for a half at a time if the Chiefs add another “must be accounted for” player to the offense.

That’s why Jacobs intrigued before his stock blew up. It’s why Love intrigues me now. Love’s breakaway speed, if you can get him at the end of the third or by moving into the 4th, could be really interesting.

I like Damien Williams a bunch. I prioritize upgrading CB and LB and S over upgrading at RB.

If they’re going to spend one of their first 3/4 picks on an offensive player, a big-play threat at RB or WR seems like the spot.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not in the “Chiefs must draft a RB high” camp. I don’t want them to change the offense to be more run heavy.

I do think it’s interesting to keep an eye on value.

I do wonder if the Patriots - and other teams - have a tougher time slowing down the Chiefs o like we’d see for a half at a time if the Chiefs add another “must be accounted for” player to the offense.

That’s why Jacobs intrigued before his stock blew up. It’s why Love intrigues me now. Love’s breakaway speed, if you can get him at the end of the third or by moving into the 4th, could be really interesting.

I like Damien Williams a bunch. I prioritize upgrading CB and LB and S over upgrading at RB.

If they’re going to spend one of their first 3/4 picks on an offensive player, a big-play threat at RB or WR seems like the spot.

I'd probably rather go TE than RB, but I get your thought process and like it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not in the “Chiefs must draft a RB high” camp. I don’t want them to change the offense to be more run heavy.

I do think it’s interesting to keep an eye on value.

I do wonder if the Patriots - and other teams - have a tougher time slowing down the Chiefs o like we’d see for a half at a time if the Chiefs add another “must be accounted for” player to the offense.

That’s why Jacobs intrigued before his stock blew up. It’s why Love intrigues me now. Love’s breakaway speed, if you can get him at the end of the third or by moving into the 4th, could be really interesting.

I like Damien Williams a bunch. I prioritize upgrading CB and LB and S over upgrading at RB.

If they’re going to spend one of their first 3/4 picks on an offensive player, a big-play threat at RB or WR seems like the spot.

If they're going to spend a 1, 2, or 3 on offense, it needs to be OL or TE. If they think they need a RB, rd 4 and after is a better place to get one. This team needs defense in a bad way.

[Chief Northman]

I think it is a false narrative that the Chiefs need to draft all defense/defense heavy. Hill and Mahomes are about to get expensive. Morse may be allowed to hit FA. Watkins becomes a cut candidate in 2020. I do not think RB is as critical as receiver/OL/TE depth moving forward.

I was sour on the FA Tight End class, but there could be cheap potential upgrades to Harris:

Jesse James
Tyler Kroft
C.J. Uzomah
Jeff Heuerman

- The Cincy TE’s are intriguing. Uzomah is coming off a career year which will spike his salary, but Kroft put up impressive numbers in 2017 prior to his foot injury this season where he only played in 5 games. I think the Chiefs could land one of these guys for as cheap as they had Harris with more potential production (all have superior catch rates).

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I think it is a false narrative that the Chiefs need to draft all defense/defense heavy. Hill and Mahomes are about to get expensive. Morse may be allowed to hit FA. Watkins becomes a cut candidate in 2020. I do not think RB is as critical as receiver/OL/TE depth moving forward.

I was sour on the FA Tight End class, but there could be cheap potential upgrades to Harris:

Jesse James
Tyler Kroft
C.J. Uzomah
Jeff Heuerman

- The Cincy TE’s are intriguing. Uzomah is coming off a career year which will spike his salary, but Kroft put up impressive numbers in 2017 prior to his foot injury this season where he only played in 5 games. I think the Chiefs could land one of these guys for as cheap as they had Harris with more potential production (all have superior catch rates).

I'm tellin' ya - if you want to improve this team's running game, draft T.J. Hockenson.

I couldn't draw up a better fit for this offense in a lab. He is letter perfect for what Andy likes to do. If the Chiefs went out there in twin tight ace formations 75% of the time, they'd just rape faces man.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm tellin' ya - if you want to improve this team's running game, draft T.J. Hockenson.

I couldn't draw up a better fit for this offense in a lab. He is letter perfect for what Andy likes to do. If the Chiefs went out there in twin tight ace formations 75% of the time, they'd just rape faces man.

I've seen him inching closer and closer to the top 10 in mock drafts so I think that's just not gonna happen.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

I've seen him inching closer and closer to the top 10 in mock drafts so I think that's just not gonna happen.

I'm still hopeful that relatively pedestrian stopwatch times are going to have him painted as 'old school' in the draft and he'll slip. If he goes out there and runs in the 4.6 range, we're probably screwed. But if he's in the 4.7-4.8 range we might have a shot at him.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm still hopeful that relatively pedestrian stopwatch times are going to have him painted as 'old school' in the draft and he'll slip. If he goes out there and runs in the 4.6 range, we're probably screwed. But if he's in the 4.7-4.8 range we might have a shot at him.

I think he's going to tank his 40 and pull up lame with a hamstring all because he wants The Chiefs to draft him so he can play with Mahomes.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm still hopeful that relatively pedestrian stopwatch times are going to have him painted as 'old school' in the draft and he'll slip. If he goes out there and runs in the 4.6 range, we're probably screwed. But if he's in the 4.7-4.8 range we might have a shot at him.

I think teams will be enamored by him regardless of how he tests. Iowa cranks out quality players and his tape does not lie. The “Kittle effect” also will cause teams to want Hockenson early.