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View Poll Results: Patrick Mahomes II starting every game in 2017 would have been...
Better for the Chiefs in both the short term and the long term. 66 46.15%
Better for the Chiefs in the short term, but worse in the long term. 8 5.59%
Worse for the Chiefs in the short term, but better in the long term. 27 18.88%
Worse for the Chiefs in both the short term and the long term. 19 13.29%
I'm incapable of thinking clearly due to my excitement about the game tomorrow. 18 12.59%
Sorry, but I don't read English. 5 3.50%
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:36 PM   Topic Starter
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Not starting Patrick Mahomes II in 2017 - good idea or bad idea?
Some of you may know that Patrick Mahomes II was drafted in 2017. He watched 15 of the 16 regular season games from the sideline, and he watched the Jeff Triplette abomination from the same locale.

My question to you, brilliant Kansas City Chiefs fans, is whether that was a good move or a bad move long term.

There are many facets to consider in this situation. I'll list a few, and you will likely identify more.

Would we have made the playoffs in 2017 with a Mahomes-Led Team (MLT)?
Would we have gone further in the playoffs with an MLT?
Would we get one more career year from Mahomes to enjoy in that situation?
Mahomes learned from Alex
Alex's trade value was impacted by starting in 2017.
Would more film have impacted Mahomes' legendary 2018 season?
Would more playing experience have impacted Mahomes' legendary 2018 season?
We lost a year of Mahomes' non-billion dollar rookie contract.
Would it have impacted Mahomes' chemistry with future consensus all-pro Gehrig Dieter?

You'll be receiving a poll faster than Patrick Mahomes II throws to Kelce over the middle.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:37 PM   #2
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:37 PM   #3
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Might be right!

Although I think having a guy like Mahomes sitting behind Smith was good for a year. A guy, who's biggest knock coming into KC was being too much of a gunslinger and hunting the big play, had to sit behind Alex Smiff - the king of being a pussy and not taking the risky big play.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:42 PM   #4
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Might be right!

Although I think having a guy like Mahomes sitting behind Smith was good for a year. A guy, who's biggest knock coming into KC was being too much of a gunslinger and hunting the big play, had to sit behind Alex Smiff - the king of being a pussy and not taking the risky big play.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:44 PM   #5
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Good. Everybody has talked about how much having a year to learn from Reid and Alex helped him. A year to literally just learn with no pressure to perform was really good for him and we see how much his mechanics have improved while still retaining his uniqueness.
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Old 01-20-2019, 12:43 PM   #6
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Good. Everybody has talked about how much having a year to learn from Reid and Alex helped him. A year to literally just learn with no pressure to perform was really good for him and we see how much his mechanics have improved while still retaining his uniqueness.
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[QUOTE=Rain Man;14052885]Some of you may know that Patrick Mahomes II was drafted in 2017. He watched 15 of the 16 regular season games from the sideline, and he watched the Jeff Triplette abomination from the same locale.



My question to you, brilliant Kansas City Chiefs fans, is whether that was a good move or a bad move long term.



There are many facets to consider in this situation. I'll list a few, and you will likely identify more.



Would we have made the playoffs in 2017 with a Mahomes-Led Team (MLT)?


I think it was good for him to sit . Now you could argue Andy shouldve trotted him out in the 4th quarter of the Titans game last year (I think he would've won it for us) but you also have to consider the derogatory effect that would have on Alex's trade value, so I get what Andy was thinking. As much as we complain about Andy he usually seems like he knows best.(like starting Ward in the Seahawks game) The guy has won a freaking ton of games.

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It was a complete wasted opportunity. He learned zero for that junk QB Alex.
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Old 01-19-2019, 07:11 PM   #9
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I would have started him after the Giants debacle.


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I think it was the perfect way to handle him. The only gripe I have is that Andy didn't yank Alex in the second half of last year's playoff debacle
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I think it was the perfect way to handle him. The only gripe I have is that Andy didn't yank Alex in the second half of last year's playoff debacle
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I think it was the perfect way to handle him. The only gripe I have is that Andy didn't yank Alex in the second half of last year's playoff debacle
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It was still worth the 3rd rounder and Fuller. Smith would have lost value in a benching.
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It was still worth the 3rd rounder and Fuller. Smith would have lost value in a benching.
This is the correct answer.

5000/50 shows Fat Andy and Veach made the right call giving MVPat a redshirt year.

We would have certainly gone farther in the playoffs, but to what ultimate end??
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Obviously it’s worked out pretty damn good. Who knows if he would have learned pre-snap defensive reads on the fly if he starts day one. His decision making is way better than he ever showed in college.
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