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Chris Jones 94 54.34%
1st round draft pick + $20m of other players 74 42.77%
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:33 PM   #1
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that's a hell nah.

Nelson is a beast of a G, but he's still just a G. You don't win playoff games with difference makers on the OL.
Kinda sorta agree. I'm not 100% convinced we win the Super Bowl with Wylie at LG though.
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:29 PM   #2
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Kinda sorta agree. I'm not 100% convinced we win the Super Bowl with Wylie at LG though.
Also Rankin looked solid before his injury
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:31 PM   #3
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I am wondering if you all would deal Chris Jones for Quenton Nelson and a 3rd round pick?
I'd rather have the Colts 1st and 3rd, but sure, I'd do that.
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:25 PM   #4
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I am wondering if you all would deal Chris Jones for Quenton Nelson and a 3rd round pick?
uh... yes
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:36 PM   #5
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Holy shit that's a lot of people who'd keep Jones. What a terrible ****ing idea.

Tag and trade Jones is the top 5 options.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:40 PM   #7
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Name one person off of that vaunted 49er DL, other than Nick Bosa, that you would rather have than Jones. Those guys are all top 1st round draft picks.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:48 PM   #8
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Name one person off of that vaunted 49er DL, other than Nick Bosa, that you would rather have than Jones. Those guys are all top 1st round draft picks.
I'm not sure this is the argument you think it is. The 49ers ENTIRE STARTING DL has a total average salary of about what it would cost to keep Jones. So if you're asking me if I could trade Jones for the 49ers DL, the answer is yes in an instant. Otherwise, I'd take Buckner and $15m to spend on other players, yes.

I just think the piece that everyone always ignores in discussions like this is that the salary BUYS OTHER PLAYERS, so any discussion of what you would trade should also consider the difference in cap hit and what else we might be able to do with it.
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I'm not sure this is the argument you think it is. The 49ers ENTIRE STARTING DL has a total average salary of about what it would cost to keep Jones. So if you're asking me if I could trade Jones for the 49ers DL, the answer is yes in an instant. Otherwise, I'd take Buckner and $15m to spend on other players, yes.

I just think the piece that everyone always ignores in discussions like this is that the salary BUYS OTHER PLAYERS, so any discussion of what you would trade should also consider the difference in cap hit and what else we might be able to do with it.
You are missing the point, which is that none of those players are as good/dominate as Jones. And we have no idea if a 1st round draft pick is going to be anywhere as good as Jones.
Sure you can get other players for that money difference. You can get players like Hitchens.
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Old 02-18-2020, 04:41 PM   #10
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Nelson has two cheap years left and his 5th year option. So yeah, I'd take him and 3rd.

Its the type of player I'd love to try and land.
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If Nelson was a top 5 LT or RT, I could see it. That's value on par with a premium pass rusher.

A freaking guard? No way.
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If Nelson was a top 5 LT or RT, I could see it. That's value on par with a premium pass rusher.

A freaking guard? No way.
...a freaking guard plus $15m to spend on other players.
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If Nelson was a top 5 LT or RT, I could see it. That's value on par with a premium pass rusher.

A freaking guard? No way.
I don't get the logic in this thread.

"CHIRS JONES IS A MUST SIGN! INTERIOR PASS RUSH IS THE MOST VALUABLE COMMODITY!"

Would you trade him for the best interior OL in the league to stop interior pass rush on your Super Bowl MVP quarterback?

"STOPPING THE INTERIOR PASS RUSH IS MEANINGLESS!"
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I don't get the logic in this thread.



"CHIRS JONES IS A MUST SIGN! INTERIOR PASS RUSH IS THE MOST VALUABLE COMMODITY!"



Would you trade him for the best interior OL in the league to stop interior pass rush on your Super Bowl MVP quarterback?



"STOPPING THE INTERIOR PASS RUSH IS MEANINGLESS!"

I mean, that’s a little hyperbolic.

The value of an elite pass rusher - which I think we all agree Jones is, and a unique one at that - is a lot higher than the value of an elite interior OL.

Nelson is a monster, but he’s still an interior guy. Guys like Jones are harder to find and offer more value over an “adequate” or “good” player when compared to a G.
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I mean, that’s a little hyperbolic.

The value of an elite pass rusher - which I think we all agree Jones is, and a unique one at that - is a lot higher than the value of an elite interior OL.

Nelson is a monster, but he’s still an interior guy. Guys like Jones are harder to find and offer more value over an “adequate” or “good” player when compared to a G.
Fair point. I guess here's the problem with my logic:

There are only a handful of interior beasts who rush the passer. Having an OG who can shut that down will only matter in 3-4 games, if that, barring injury.

Whereas if you HAVE one of those beasts, you have that value in 19 games, barring injury.

So, there's the disconnect. I get it.

But, if you gave me the option of sacking the other team's QB or never having Mahomes sacked, I'll keep Mahomes upright. If we had a "no sack" game in the playoffs, I'm betting HARD on Mahomes winning that shootout.
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