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Old 01-13-2020, 12:59 PM  
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:01 PM   #76
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:05 PM   #77
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This is worse than anything Pete Rose did. The Astros keep a Championship and the GM-MGR get one year. "There is no Justice in Mudville"
What Pete Rose did was worse. I don't know why he always trends whenever there's a baseball scandal.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:25 PM   #78
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Anyone who brings up Pete Rose.... Stop paying attention to games he bet on. Pay attention to the games he didn't bet on.
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:43 PM   #79
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Hey Lew who would you take? These 2 cheating bastards or Moore/Matheny? Moore seems to rebuilding the farm nicely but CP seems to really hate Matheny
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Old 01-13-2020, 11:52 PM   #80
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:04 AM   #81
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To be fair, that's a little misleading. It says in the article, all clubs have been asked not to comment.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:13 AM   #82
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Hey Lew who would you take? These 2 cheating bastards or Moore/Matheny? Moore seems to rebuilding the farm nicely but CP seems to really hate Matheny
Luhnow would be tempting in a year or so.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:17 AM   #83
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:29 AM   #84
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Luhnow would be tempting in a year or so.
You gotta be kidding. Guy just threw his entire group of players, coaches and employees under the bus for everything that happened on his watch when he was the leader. Total garbage move. Spineless.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:49 AM   #85
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Red Sox should just get out ahead of this and fire Cora. It's not like there's any chance he will be exonerated.
Agreed. It doesn't sound good for him. Especially finding out that we were sign stealing in 2018. It's my understanding it wasn't nearly on the same level as what Houston did and we didn't do it in the postseason, but still...

At least I'm really hoping it doesn't come out we did it in the postseason. Damn embarrassing

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You gotta be kidding. Guy just threw his entire group of players, coaches and employees under the bus for everything that happened on his watch when he was the leader. Total garbage move. Spineless.
Can he at least run the draft?
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Old 01-14-2020, 05:47 AM   #87
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I'm not sure I'd agree to that if I owned the Dodgers, at least not without every player enjoying a bonus large enough to buy an 8-figure gag ball.

JFC, they didn't even ban the franchise from even one season of post-season play. Hell colleges do that at the drop of a hat.

$5M encourages cheating, not the opposite...
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Luhnow would be tempting in a year or so.
Us Cardinals fans knew he would be a great team builder. We wanted him over Mo.

The employee of the Cardinals that hacked into the Astros did it not to get their stuff but to see what Luhnow had stolen from the Cardinals. Luhnow still had access years later as the Astros GM because they left his Cardinals ID active(What morons ) Luhnow had downloaded our draft, projected starters 5 years out, internal discussions on players etc.

He didn't get in trouble because he used a valid account given to him as a Cardinals employee. Court cases held that up long ago.

So he has been cheating for a long time. I don't think the Royals want that type of guy in their front office, even if he is a great talent evaluator.
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Agreed. It doesn't sound good for him. Especially finding out that we were sign stealing in 2018. It's my understanding it wasn't nearly on the same level as what Houston did and we didn't do it in the postseason, but still...

At least I'm really hoping it doesn't come out we did it in the postseason. Damn embarrassing
It was going on during the 2018 ALCS vs the Stros. They were stealing signs vs us and we were stealing from them.
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