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Old 01-22-2019, 02:54 PM   Topic Starter
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Andy Reid wonders why Officials did not warn Dee Ford he was offsides....

I didn't even know they did such a thing.....

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Championship Sunday was filled with pivotal plays and penalties in both games that swung the fates of teams battling for a Super Bowl berth.

One of the biggest was an offside penalty on Kansas City Chiefs pass rusher Dee Ford. Officials flagged Ford for lining up in the neutral zone on a play that resulted in Charvarius Ward intercepting New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.

Penalty dooms Chiefs
The interception that would have all but sealed a Chiefs victory was wiped off the board with around a minute left in regulation, and Brady marched the Patriots to a touchdown before New England eventually won in overtime.

Unlike the game-changing fiasco in New Orleans, there was no wrangling over this call. Ford was clearly lined up well into the neutral zone. Heartbreaking? Yes. Controversial? No.

Except Chiefs head coach Andy Reid said Monday that he wasn’t completely satisfied with how officials handled Ford on the pivotal penalty.


Andy Reid didn’t dispute the call against Dee Ford but wondered aloud why officials didn’t give him a heads up. (Getty)
Andy Reid: Ford wasn’t warned he was offside
“Normally, you’re warned and the coach is warned if somebody is doing that before they throw it in a game of that magnitude,” Reid told reporters. “But they did. And he didn’t waste any time in doing it.

“He didn’t wait until the interception to throw it. He had his hand on his flag right from the get go, and he saw it from his angle, and he thought it was the call.”

Neutral zone infraction rule
Section 3 of the NFL rule book entry on neutral zone infractions addresses that a player who has been warned about infractions is to be automatically penalized, even if he corrects his illegal position prior to the snap.

A player, after he has received a warning, enters into the neutral zone. It is a foul, even if he returns to a legal position prior to the snap without contacting an opponent or causing a reaction (movement) by an offensive player in close proximity.
What isn’t addressed there and what isn’t clear to the viewer is how and when players are warned. Whatever that process is, Reid appears to believe Ford was not afforded a warning he believed he was due.

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Old 01-22-2019, 03:00 PM   #2
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If you've been playing football your entire life and can't tell if you're onside without someone else's help...
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Old 01-22-2019, 03:04 PM   #3
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I don't care.

If you've been playing football your entire life and can't tell if you're onside without someone else's help...
Exactly. I don't care if the left tackle was line up line an H-Back (he was), know where the ****ing LOS is. For FCUK'S sake.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:30 AM   #4
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Exactly. I don't care if the left tackle was line up line an H-Back (he was), know where the ****ing LOS is. For FCUK'S sake.
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Old 01-26-2019, 11:20 AM   #6
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Andy Reid wonders why Officials did not warn Dee Ford he was offsides....

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Old 01-26-2019, 11:23 AM   #7
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and we wonder why our pass rush couldn’t get to Brady? look how far back that offensive lineman is.
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and we wonder why our pass rush couldn’t get to Brady? look how far back that offensive lineman is.
He’s 2 yards behind the LOS. Did they do this throughout the game?
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:19 PM   #9
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He’s 2 yards behind the LOS. Did they do this throughout the game?
I'm sure the coaches told both tackles to do it until they get flagged for it...
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and we wonder why our pass rush couldn’t get to Brady? look how far back that offensive lineman is.
No shit.

Dee Ford’s mistake was just that, his mistake. And I have no issue with the officials throwing the flag. He should know better.

But what about the ****ing Pats Tackle who was practically lined up in the backfield with Brady?? You can’t tell me THATS not an illegal formation.

So, once again, officials calling out Chiefs D-Linemen for lining up incorrectly, which they did, but ignoring Pats O-Linemen for doing the same thing.

Convenient.
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I don't care.

If you've been playing football your entire life and can't tell if you're onside without someone else's help...
ANd besides that, YOU ARE MOTHER****ING LOOKING AT THE ****ING BALL YOU ****ING ****.
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No shit.

Dee Ford’s mistake was just that, his mistake. And I have no issue with the officials throwing the flag. He should know better.

But what about the ****ing Pats Tackle who was practically lined up in the backfield with Brady?? You can’t tell me THATS not an illegal formation.

So, once again, officials calling out Chiefs D-Linemen for lining up incorrectly, which they did, but ignoring Pats O-Linemen for doing the same thing.

Convenient.

i’m not sure but i remember right when he snapped the ball and i saw the flag thrown i told my brother it’s going to be an illegal formation and that the play likely wouldn’t count....and then we intercepted it and i knew KC was going to decline the penalty and the game was over......and then my heart was ripped out. Ford was offsides, but when the play happened i was just almost certain it was an illegal formation due to him being off the LOS. like i said, that’s why we couldn’t get close to Brady. even scooting back even a half yard more makes a huge difference in protecting the QB.
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and we wonder why our pass rush couldn’t get to Brady? look how far back that offensive lineman is.
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He’s 2 yards behind the LOS. Did they do this throughout the game?
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But what about the ****ing Pats Tackle who was practically lined up in the backfield with Brady?? You can’t tell me THATS not an illegal formation.
I don't have time to quote all of you in this thread, so just got the first few.

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For those asking... Patriots LT Trent Brown wasn't lined up illegally on the Dee Ford off-sides. His helmet is breaking the plane of the center's hip. He's a massive human so I can see why it looks that way.
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Unfortunatly the only error here is on dee ford. Trent Brown is lined up.legally
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