Chiefs have ‘growing optimism’ they’ll keep Chris Jones - The Athletic

[kcgreene]

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MODS Feel free to delete this. Apparently I skipped over where it was posted in the Sneed/Jones thread. My apologies.

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By Nate Taylor and Dianna Russini
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INDIANAPOLIS — In the corners of downtown bars, in the lobbies of several hotels and even the negotiations behind closed doors, most of the conversations at the NFL combine surrounding Kansas City Chiefs pass rusher Chris Jones have reached an understandable, unanimous sentiment.

“He deserves to get paid,” one league source said earlier this week.

“I would give him a ton,” another league source said.

“He should get a massive deal from the Chiefs,” a third NFL source said.

The race to retain Jones began this week. The Chiefs hope to do just that before 11 a.m. CT on March 11 when agents of unrestricted free agents can enter contract negotiations with any interested team. Chiefs general manager Brett Veach acknowledged Tuesday that re-signing Jones is the team’s top priority. By Thursday afternoon — when several members of the organization flew home to Kansas City — there was “growing optimism,” according to league sources, that the Chiefs will agree to a new contract with Jones before free agency.

“I love Chris,” Veach said Tuesday of Jones. “We tried really hard to get something done (last year) and we didn’t. But when we got together right after that Detroit game (in early September), we had a great talk.

“Both parties, I think, want to be here, so we’ll get to work. That’s certainly a guy we want back and love and want to see him finish his career here in Kansas City.”

Veach and Chris Shea, the Chiefs’ vice president of football operations, met in person Tuesday and Wednesday with Jones’ agents, brothers Jason and Michael Katz.

Similar to this time last year, Jones wants a contract that will pay him an average annual salary of $30 million, which would make him the league’s third-highest-paid defensive player behind San Francisco 49ers pass rusher Nick Bosa and Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald.

Jones led the Chiefs last season with 10 1/2 sacks and 29 quarterback hits. Since Jones has demonstrated his versatility by showcasing his ability to pressure the quarterback from the interior and the edge the past two seasons — each ending with the Chiefs as Super Bowl champions — an understanding between him and the Chiefs has become more clear.

The Chiefs will likely have to offer a contract that’s more lucrative than what the Pittsburgh Steelers gave outside linebacker T.J. Watt in 2021 — a four-year, $112 million extension with $80 million guaranteed — for Jones to agree to continue his career with the franchise that selected him with a 2016 second-round pick.

.@StoneColdJones was a real one for wearing his emotions on his sleeve pregame ❤️️ pic.twitter.com/fPi43GffPY

— NFL Films (@NFLFilms) February 21, 2024

Veach has already made two moves this week to increase the Chiefs’ odds of retaining Jones in the wake of the news that the NFL salary cap for 2024 will be set at $255.4 million, an unprecedented $30.6 million increase for each franchise.

The Chiefs informed veteran receiver Marquez Valdes-Scantling that they are releasing him, according to a league source. A six-year veteran, Valdes-Scantling was the most logical veteran to be a salary-cup cut. The decision created $12 million in cap space with just $2 million in dead money. The Chiefs hope to use much of that money to help re-sign Jones.

The Chiefs are also expected to place the franchise tag on cornerback L’Jarius Sneed before the 3 p.m. CT deadline on March 5. By preventing Sneed from becoming a first-time unrestricted free agent, he would be set to earn a one-year salary of $19.8 million — unless he and the team agree to an extension before the July deadline for franchise-tagged players. But the Chiefs could tag and trade Sneed for 2024 pick ahead of the draft. In 2019, the Chiefs placed the franchise tag on outside linebacker Dee Ford, then traded him to the 49ers for a second-round pick. If the Chiefs enter into advanced trade discussions for Sneed, they would seek at least a second-round pick. Since Tuesday, six teams have shown interest in acquiring Sneed, according to a league source.

The Chiefs could also create more salary-cap space by converting a sizable amount of the roster bonus in quarterback Patrick Mahomes’ contract into a signing bonus. The same could be done with left guard Joe Thuney’s contract.

“Every offseason is a series of contingency plans,” Veach said Tuesday. “Things typically never go exactly how you want. You have to prepare for the opportunities as if they will go exactly how you want. But at the same time, you have to be realistic.

“It’ll be great to get (deals with) Chris and LJ done. That’s our goal and intention, but we also know it’s not 100 percent. It might not even be 75 percent. It might be 50 percent. We’ll have a backup plan.”

In early September, Jones declined a two-year, fully guaranteed extension with the Chiefs worth $54.5 million, which would have paid him an average annual salary of $27.5 million in 2024 and 2025.

In Week 2, Jones signed a new one-year deal, replacing the final year of the four-year contract he signed in 2020. His base salary remained the same at $19.5 million, but he could earn a maximum of $25 million through incentives. Jones finished last season having earned $22.6 million after achieving four of his six incentives — including earning $1 million by earning first-team All-Pro honors and the Chiefs reaching the Super Bowl.

“Chris was a hell of a leader for us,” defensive end Charles Omenihu said Monday on “Good Morning Football.” “Throughout the season, his relentlessness, leadership and play, those are things you don’t see in the stat sheet, really showed up. I told him, I’ve played with top-of-the-line defensive linemen, those guys that every week the (coaching) staff is looking at, like, ‘You’re going to make a play that’s going to change the game.’ He’s right up there with J.J. (Watt) and Bosa, two other guys I’ve played (with).

“I hope that everything works out and that he’s a Chief for the rest of his career because playing with him, I just fed off of him so much.”

"I hope that everything works out and that he's a [Kansas City] Chief for the rest of his career."

Charles Omenihu wants to see Chris Jones and the Chiefs work out a new deal �� pic.twitter.com/OZGLYsG5bR

— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) February 26, 2024

The Chiefs’ four-game postseason run included memorable play after memorable play from Jones. The Chiefs’ final defensive snap of the season ended with Jones pressuring quarterback Brock Purdy into a pivotal third-down incompletion in overtime of their comeback victory over the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl LVIII.

After the game, Mahomes and tight end Travis Kelce expressed to Jones how much they want him to stay their teammate.

Jones also reiterated his desire to remain a Chief earlier this month during the city’s celebratory rally when he was handed the microphone in front of hundreds of thousands of fans.

“We ain’t done yet! We ain’t done yet!” Jones shouted. “Kansas City, we will be back here next year! And for those who want Chris Jones gone, I ain’t going nowhere, baby!

“I’m going to be here this year, next year and the year after!”

"I AIN'T GOING NOWHERE, BABY!" – @StoneColdJones pic.twitter.com/qtU3Jmgq84

— NFL (@NFL) February 14, 2024

[scho63]

Originally Posted by Delano

I get the vibe that Chris has an ownership stake in the Katz Bros operation.

The Katz Bros are just a front. The real owners are the Lakeville Road Boys out of Cleveland.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

So I’m sure this has already been posted by now. Sorry, haven’t been on here all weekend.

Rumors coming out of the last day of NFL Combine:

• 49ers expected to work on Aiyuk extension after free agency ends
•The ‘feeling’ is Chris Jones will remain in Kansas City if $27-28M deal is offered
• Michigan's J.J. McCarthy Could be Top-10 Pick After Combine
• Patriots a… pic.twitter.com/tMXMpP3UV1

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) March 4, 2024

So it kind of ‘sounds’ like from some circles, the Chiefs are gonna really try and get this done with CJ. So if $27-$28 million possibly gets it done, then what do you all think of a deal structured something like this:

4 years, $110 million. $75 million guaranteed. (avg. yearly value $27.5 mil.)

Year 1 - $15 mil. (Fully gtd.)
Year 2 - $25 mil. (Fully gtd.)
Year 3 - $35 mil. (Fully gtd.)
Year 4 - $35 mil. (in essence, voidable)

Is this a possibility? Can Chiefs get Klutz brothers to agree to this? Even at his age, I’d feel really good about those first 2 years. I don’t like year 3, but it’s a price there gonna have to pay somewhere to get a deal done. At least the cap should be significantly higher by the 3rd year of the deal. The 4th year would be essentially voidable so you could get out of it after 3 with little cap implication.

Would you do this deal for Chris Jones?

More importantly, would Chris Jones take this deal?

(Again, I’m operating with the assumption Veach is gonna do what he can to get a deal done)

[TribalElder]

Last year CJ's number was 30+, I see no reason he would drop that number after winning the super bowl last season.

I expect us to keep ****ing around and when free agency comes some team probably throws 35 at him and we wave goodbye

[Gravedigger]

Just give him $30M and lets go to work, tag and trade Sneed before his value depreciates more the closer we get to the draft, restructure Mahomes to make up the differences and open up space, cmon Veach! I trust in you but lets stop sand-bagging this shit! Let's look like we have our house in order.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

I thought he made $25 million last year w/ incentives?

Also, Veach offered him a 2 year/ 54 million fully gtd. extension which he and his agents declined. He ended up making less with the time he missed. (although incentives may have pushed him back over $27.5 mil.?)

[Red Dawg]

Let Jones walk. Waste of manhours at this point. Neither side will budge on the contract so let him go and move on.

[RunKC]

No excuse to not get this done. You’ve been working on it for over a year.

We want him, he wants us and we aren’t paying anyone on the defense except a small deal for Reid.

Get this done and go for the three peat

[wazu]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No excuse to not get this done. You’ve been working on it for over a year.

We want him, he wants us and we aren’t paying anyone on the defense except a small deal for Reid.

Get this done and go for the three peat

Sure there is an excuse. Chris can say he wants to get it done, but if he is demanding top pay then he's going to almost certainly find it elsewhere. Can't have both.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bwana

It would be nice, but first Bart Vatch needs to deal with his agents. John Taffer and Bugs Morgan.

Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee really grind my gears.

[RunKC]

MMQB..Breer thinks it gets done.

I’d guess—and this is just a guess—the Chiefs get something done with Chris Jones within a week. Jones wants to stay there. Kansas City wants him around. There’s been progress. I have to think there’s a common ground to be found on this one.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

No excuse to not get this done. You’ve been working on it for over a year.

We want him, he wants us and we aren’t paying anyone on the defense except a small deal for Reid.

Get this done and go for the three peat

And teams like the Texans want him more than we do and Jones wants money more than he wants us.

But we'll see.

[FloridaMan88]

"The Chris Jones deal isn't done yet but the Chiefs would be surprised if they didn't get it done..

Brian Burns, Josh Allen and Justin Madubuike will all be franchise tagged if they can't get a deal done" ~ @AdamSchefter #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/zdJLpLGzfC

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) March 4, 2024

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

"The Chris Jones deal isn't done yet but the Chiefs would be surprised if they didn't get it done..

Brian Burns, Josh Allen and Justin Madubuike will all be franchise tagged if they can't get a deal done" ~ @AdamSchefter #PMSLive pic.twitter.com/zdJLpLGzfC

— Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) March 4, 2024

Everyone keeps saying this and I get it but we're a week away from the legal tampering period and.....nothing. Like when is it happening?

I might be more pessimistic than others, I just don't know it's a slam dunk like so many are making it out to be.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Everyone keeps saying this and I get it but we're a week away from the legal tampering period and.....nothing. Like when is it happening?

I might be more pessimistic than others, I just don't know it's a slam dunk like so many are making it out to be.

Eh, find some comfort in if they weren't confident in getting the Jones deal they would have absolutely tagged him instead of Sneed...

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Jerm

Everyone keeps saying this and I get it but we're a week away from the legal tampering period and.....nothing. Like when is it happening?

I might be more pessimistic than others, I just don't know it's a slam dunk like so many are making it out to be.

I’m comfortable because I trust the Chiefs on this no matter how it shakes out.

If they won’t pay Jones, that’s not the end of the world. He’s getting up there in age and he’ll be damn expensive. We can use that money somewhere else.

Paying him is my preference right now, but moving on isn’t terrible for the long term either. Hurts the chances of a 3-peat for sure.