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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:00 PM   #241
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This is exactly the sort of thing I'd have been adamantly opposed to had we NOT won this year and completely in support of because we have.

It's a chance at a 3-peat, fellas. Oh it makes 2025 a real shit-show. At worst it will make 2026 a problem. But this is a chance that, what, a half dozen teams in NFL history have had?

It is against every fiber of my being but I really think it's how we should approach it.
This is exactly where I am. And like you, I wasn't onboard with something like this until it hit me after the game just how incredible doing something that's never been done in the modern era would be. How could we not be called the greatest team ever? Literally a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for the franchise, for Clark, for the players, and for the coaches/management. You've got to go for it.

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Old 02-13-2024, 03:02 PM   #242
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Hall of Fame monitor seems pretty flawed in my view. Mahomes was listed at 93 at the end of the regular season. They only increased it to 95 after leading the team on a legendary run to win a 3rd championship. He is still listed below the stat padding chokers Matt Ryan and Phil Rivers. The list does not pass the smell test.
Yeah, it seems to put way more into duration than peak.

And I think the inclusion of some pretty iffy candidates {cough}TerrellDavis{coughcough} suggests that in NFL HoF circles, that's the wrong way to go about it.

Peak carries a TON of weight to the HoF selection committee. And Jones has a pretty damn unassailable peak, especially in the context of team success.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:03 PM   #243
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You sign jones and don’t even think twice about it, he won us that Super Bowl. Against the bills he knocked Dawkins into Allen which made the pass fall short of shakir for a would be touchdown. Then in Super Bowl he made 2 game saving plays. Dude is arguably the second best player on the team behind kelce
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Yeah, it seems to put way more into duration than peak.

And I think the inclusion of some pretty iffy candidates {cough}TerrellDavis{coughcough} suggests that in NFL HoF circles, that's the wrong way to go about it.

Peak carries a TON of weight to the HoF selection committee. And Jones has a pretty damn unassailable peak, especially in the context of team success.
Way too much emphasis on empty regular season stats. Tom Brady is barely ahead of Peyton Manning, which is just not accurate IMHO.
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Winning a Super Bowl takes a lot of luck. Especially in the injury department.

We are already a dynasty. We are going to be remembered. I would take Mahomes winning 8 Super Bowls over a 3 peat.
It does take luck.

But I'm already sitting on 5/6 vs a 6. I already know, prior to the season, I'm gonna be in the mix with Andy and Pat and Trav. I know I'm doubling down, before I even see the cards.

I'm counting cards here, there's a **** load of kings and aces left and I'm flush with cash.
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Old 02-13-2024, 03:06 PM   #246
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Ok name the guys. I'll wait. Junior Seau shot himself in the chest. Outside of him name the guys that killed themselves, compared to how many guys that have played in the league and what that percentage is. Especially just compared to the general population.

Seoncd, you don't know my sample size. Last year I spent a whole weekend working with over 60 players out in Texas. You don't know shit about me dickhead. You're some blowhard that literally knows nothing about this.

Furthermore, you missed my point. I don't care what the players get. If they want to chase the money that's fine. But the idiotic comments about how they have to get tens of millions now to setup generational wealth or somehow their grandchildren will live in poverty is some shit that poster children for mental poverty would say.

And anyone saying 5 million isn't enough to finish your life on doesn't know shit about money. Period. And I clear 2 million a year.
You don't come off as someone who clears $200,000 a year, much less $2,000,000. So, excuse me if I have reservations about your financial acumen here for a moment.

For argument's sake, let's say I believe that you clear $2m a year. If you've been doing your job for 2.5 years now at this clip, why haven't you retired? You should be set for life.

Not only that, are you trying to make more money now than you have before? What incentive do you have to do that?
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It is funny how narratives go.

"Chris Jones doesn't show up in the playoffs". I mean, that's been put to bed for a while now, but shit.....dude has just dominated two playoff runs.
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You don't come off as someone who clears $200,000 a year, much less $2,000,000. So, excuse me if I have reservations about your financial acumen here for a moment.

For argument's sake, let's say I believe that you clear $2m a year. If you've been doing your job for 2.5 years now at this clip, why haven't you retired? You should be set for life.

Not only that, are you trying to make more money now than you have before? What incentive do you have to do that?
I don't care how I come across on a message board where we all fan up on a team. I have friends who clear 8 figures a year on their businesses, so I am actually in the "small fry" club in that regard.

I haven't retired because I love what I do. Most likely I will open another business this year as well.

I can retire today and be set. Yes.
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It is funny how narratives go.

"Chris Jones doesn't show up in the playoffs". I mean, that's been put to bed for a while now, but shit.....dude has just dominated two playoff runs.
He bats or deflets more passes in the Playoffs than most DT's/DE's do in a season. He's a MF Beast!
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It does take luck.

But I'm already sitting on 5/6 vs a 6. I already know, prior to the season, I'm gonna be in the mix with Andy and Pat and Trav. I know I'm doubling down, before I even see the cards.

I'm counting cards here, there's a **** load of kings and aces left and I'm flush with cash.
I hear you. I wouldn't be mad either direction they go.

The way I look at it. We go all in next year and drop our odds of winning the next 2 years after that.

Or basically be Super Bowl favorites the next 3 years.
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I hear you. I wouldn't be mad either direction they go.

The way I look at it. We go all in next year and drop our odds of winning the next 2 years after that.

Or basically be Super Bowl favorites the next 3 years.
It's a bounce of an oblong ball, so yeah, the smart thing to do is play the odds and give yourself the best chance as many times as you can.

But with back to back in your pocket....I'm a fan of doing shit never been done before.
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I don't care how I come across on a message board where we all fan up on a team. I have friends who clear 8 figures a year on their businesses, so I am actually in the "small fry" club in that regard.

I haven't retired because I love what I do. Most likely I will open another business this year as well.

I can retire today and be set. Yes.
Congrats & good on you. Must be nice. (I'm the grasshopper that wasted away his summer.)
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Congrats & good on you. Must be nice. (I'm the grasshopper that wasted away his summer.)
Thank you. I spent 15 years as an engineer living the movie Office Space as my real life so I have empathy for people who have to work that way.

I live well below my means outside of my cars.
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I don't care how I come across on a message board where we all fan up on a team. I have friends who clear 8 figures a year on their businesses, so I am actually in the "small fry" club in that regard.

I haven't retired because I love what I do. Most likely I will open another business this year as well.

I can retire today and be set. Yes.
Am I clear that you love what you do and you want more from doing what you love?

Yet it's not okay for an NFL player to have the same attitude?

Chris Jones can't love what he does, love where he plays, but also want more money from it? Why? You'd be the classic definition of a hypocrite.
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