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Old 09-13-2019, 08:54 PM  
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Random Dorian O’Daniel thread...
So I’ve been stuck in a hotel all week for work and last night ESPNU was replaying the 2017 Syracuse upset over Clemson. Fun to see Mark Fields be Mark Fields but the guy I was really watching was Dorian O’Daniel.

I know it was only one game but the guy essentially played wide DE the entire game. He rushed the passer more than Clelland Ferrell and Ferrell was constantly dropping into zone while DOD was blitzing from the opposite side.

We all assumed the guy was going to play that hybrid LB/S role due to his speed but he really struggled last year in pass coverage and now he’s having trouble getting on the field at all. I watched that game and couldn’t help but ask myself “why did they draft this guy?”
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:00 PM   #2
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Besides Nnadi, that entire draft has been a giant “meh” so far.

Hopefully, Watts and Speaks turn into quality contributors.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:06 PM   #3
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:08 PM   #4
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Given the acquisitions of HB and Thornhill, Watts probably won’t ever be more than a special teamer. I won’t even talk about Speaks at this point he doesn’t exist. Tremor Smith impressed as a returner but they still replaced him. What a draft.
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Given the acquisitions of HB and Thornhill, Watts probably won’t ever be more than a special teamer. I won’t even talk about Speaks at this point he doesn’t exist. Tremor Smith impressed as a returner but they still replaced him. What a draft.
It was Veach being Veach.
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Old 09-13-2019, 09:58 PM   #7
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Given the acquisitions of HB and Thornhill, Watts probably won’t ever be more than a special teamer. I won’t even talk about Speaks at this point he doesn’t exist. Tremor Smith impressed as a returner but they still replaced him. What a draft.

Yeah that draft was a shit show. I’ll chalk it up to Veach’s first draft and trying to work with Bob Sutton who had basically lost his coaching ability at that stage.

We cannot have another draft like the 2018 draft in the near future.
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I get part of being a great GM is being able to re-invent the wheel before everybody else gets a new wheel. If you're not inventing a trend, you damn well be in on the early stages or else you run the risk of fielding a team of largely unremarkable players that just can't seem to come together and be consistently successful.

But... good God, Brett. I'm glad you saw what you ****ed up on in 2018 and tended to make corrections in 2019, but what the HELL were you thinking with some of these picks?! Trading up in the 2nd round to take a DE that you originally wanted to move to rushbacker when most of his experience in high school and early college was as a NT? At least Dorian O'Daniel had some impressive speed and agility measurables that you hoped the coaches could work with.

That's fine if you want to draft athletes to play at different positions in the NFL. Take those guys in the mid to late rounds. For ****'s sake though... don't **** up your first three rounds by taking these tweeners who don't play one true position because they can just "play anywhere!" You STILL even in this day and age need good traditional LBs, DL, and DBs. Just ****ing take those guys with your first 3 rounds. Leave your pet projects be until much ****ing later.

And no, Mahomes doesn't count. Nobody ever thought Mahomes could or would play any other position in the NFL. He was a QB in college and he was going to be a QB in the NFL. You couldn't say the same for O'Daniel or Speaks.
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Old 09-13-2019, 10:34 PM   #9
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Not for nothing...

But Pioli's and Dorsey's worst drafts were their first.

Veach's 2018 may be his worst when his career in KC wraps up.
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But Pioli's and Dorsey's worst drafts were their first.

Veach's 2018 may be his worst when his career in KC wraps up.
Eric Fisher and Travia Kelce tho.

Veachs free agent signings and trades have signed him.

Still convinced Dorsey is the better GM.
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I think you're reading too much into one game, DOD was slated as a good tackling, good coverage LB that we picked up right when we cut DJ, he wasn't known as a pass rusher and we didn't draft him to have anything to do with pass rush.
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Eric Fisher and Travia Kelce tho.

Veachs free agent signings and trades have signed him.

Still convinced Dorsey is the better GM.
You'd be hard pressed to convince me Dorsey isn't the best drafting GM in the league.
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You'd be hard pressed to convince me Dorsey isn't the best drafting GM in the league.
Cowboys have been the best drafting team for about 5 years
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