Let's talk about the Patriots

[cmh6476]

too soon?

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

Sometimes the sky is cloudy, water can be ice and the earth is actually an oblate spheroid. :-)

Keep believing HFA is this ever-present, consistent difference-maker if that works for you.

HFA absolutely has an effect on the game, especially in a stadium like Arrowhead. Last time you were here, you had to use a silent snap count because it was so loud.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

NE demolished Mahomes and Co in the first half of that game.

They made 3 mistakes for 21 points:

1. Kick off return with putrid STs earlier in the year.
2. Zone/busted coverage on Hunt.
3. Busted coverage/zone mishap or poorly aligned single man with Harmon all alone on Hill out of the slot.

21 points.

You're not getting 21 points in these ways on Sunday.

NE needs to play 60 minis of defense on Sunday, not 30.

NE will score more than 30 and KC will score less than 30.

Lol... You guys never stop...

Wait... You're the same troll from yesterday who maintained that KC did "literally nothing" in the first half?

Lol... how pathetic is your life that you have now made TWO troll accounts on a rival teams site?

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

NE demolished Mahomes and Co in the first half of that game.

They made 3 mistakes for 21 points:

1. Kick off return with putrid STs earlier in the year.
2. Zone/busted coverage on Hunt.
3. Busted coverage/zone mishap or poorly aligned single man with Harmon all alone on Hill out of the slot.

21 points.

You're not getting 21 points in these ways on Sunday.

NE needs to play 60 minis of defense on Sunday, not 30.

NE will score more than 30 and KC will score less than 30.

And Mahomes isn't going to miss a wide open Kelce for a TD, nor throw an easy pick in the end zone that had nothing to do with anything NE did.

See, I can play the "we made mistakes" game too.

We are going to score on you. Deal with it.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

HFA absolutely has an effect on the game, especially in a stadium like Arrowhead. Last time you were here, you had to use a silent snap count because it was so loud.

Apparently, unless the home team wins 100% it doesn't have any impact on the outcome of games...

[Patriots]

How sweet to get another lamar hunt trophy in his own house . That will be super sweet gang, I dont remember how many this will be... 11? 15? Who knows gang, we enjoy putting them in our trophy case.

[Pats59-1]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

He talks like NE will have 15 mean on the field...

KC runs predominately out of the shotgun with at least 3 receivers on the field. So, you're going to load the box against a spread formation, AND bracket Tyreek? Against the most explosive offense in the NFL?

Good luck with that...

Yes, and mix and match with some blitzes. I would guess 80-90% man and maybe some zone in the red zone.

Good luck? They put on a clinic doing this in the first half in the October game.

Hunt and Hill scare the crap out of me, but guess what? That leaves on ONE guy you need to double and be truly fearful of.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by ChiefRocka

Damien actually has better cutting ability than Hunt. Ware will be catching passes out of the backfield. “No advantages in the passing game” Ok, plain ignorance. Mahomes is better than Brady, Hill is better than Edelman, kelce over Gronk, Watkins over hogan. You have advantages in coaching, experience and runing backs. Arrowhead is THE difference. Have fun if you get behind early.

I don't think you are wrong with most of this.

Watkins is a more talented player than Hogan but we've known Sittin' Sammy for years up here from his time in BUF. He hasn't been a difference -maker vs us.

Hogan is an average receiver but has had some big playoff games for us.

If Sammy had a big game on Sunday i'd be shocked. I don't think he has it in his makeup.

With that said the matchups are really offense v defense not offense v offense.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Is the Chiefs Run D good at defending RBs out of the backfield in man and defending the run vs in man?

Why did NE put up 43 points?

Discuss:

The Chiefs have a totally different secondary now, which might even include Berry on Sunday. They also had a scrub substituting for Houston that day.

Linebacker Ragland is ascending and getting more comfortable in the system, and rookie Nnadi has become a force on the line in recent weeks.

How did the NE D allow 40 points to the Chiefs at home, despite Mahomes having his worst half of the year? Imagine if he hadn't been off the entire first half and missing wide open targets.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

NE demolished Mahomes and Co in the first half of that game.

They made 3 mistakes for 21 points:

1. Kick off return with putrid STs earlier in the year.
2. Zone/busted coverage on Hunt.
3. Busted coverage/zone mishap or poorly aligned single man with Harmon all alone on Hill out of the slot.

21 points.

You're not getting 21 points in these ways on Sunday.

NE needs to play 60 minis of defense on Sunday, not 30.

NE will score more than 30 and KC will score less than 30.

NE won't score 30, you better hope you can halfass contain Mahomes, all have tried none have succeeded.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Maybe you missed how NE ran their offense recently, or even last Sunday's dismantling of SD, even when SD tried to play man coverage.

The only teams you played with winning records on the road in the last two months of the season were the Titans and the Steelers. You scored 10pts on each of them. The Steelers game was almost exactly a month ago. Can you explain why you only decided to start really instituting this amazing offense of yours after that game? Or is it possible your home/road-Jekyll/Hyde routine is real?

[Pats59-1]

Originally Posted by bobbything

And Mahomes isn't going to miss a wide open Kelce for a TD, nor throw an easy pick in the end zone that had nothing to do with anything NE did.

See, I can play the "we made mistakes" game too.

We are going to score on you. Deal with it.

He was confused with happy feet when NE was in man. NE played too much zone, in fear of Hunt and HIll.

Guess who is missing?

lmao

[Pats59-1]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

The only teams you played with winning records on the road in the last two months of the season were the Titans and the Steelers. You scored 10pts on each of them. The Steelers game was almost exactly a month ago. Can you explain why you only decided to start really instituting this amazing offense of yours after that game? Or is it possible your home/road-Jekyll/Hyde routine is real?

NE has changed how they run their offense since then. I don't know why this is so confusing.

They're not throwing it 50+ times anymore. They're going to hammer it at Dee Ford all night with Mason and Cannon as two of the best run blockers in the league.

Brady targeted Gordon and Edelman 24/27 times in that game. Brady was horrible. That was a long time ago considering how the offense looks now. The more and more you hang onto what happened 2 or 3 months ago as a barometer for "on the road", the more beer you're going to be crying into on Sunday night.

BB will be telling them all week they haven't looked good on the road, while underdogs. Good luck with that!

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

He was confused with happy feet when NE was in man. NE played too much zone, in fear of Hunt and HIll.

Guess who is missing?

lmao

I don't know if you've noticed.....but Mahomes learns and he adapts. If you think you're going to run the same shit and confuse him....you're ****ed.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

The only teams you played with winning records on the road in the last two months of the season were the Titans and the Steelers. You scored 10pts on each of them. The Steelers game was almost exactly a month ago. Can you explain why you only decided to start really instituting this amazing offense of yours after that game? Or is it possible your home/road-Jekyll/Hyde routine is real?

They need to find their identity. Because 5-time world champions isn't an identity. Oh and nothing before the 2018-2019 postseason counts. Unless it favors the Patriots.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Hunt and Hill scare the crap out of me, but guess what? That leaves on ONE guy you need to double and be truly fearful of.