Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

[RunKC]

What some of us have been wondering...

HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''

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[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

This.

We immediately got better as soon as we sat down Moore and Toney.

MVS stepped up in the playoffs, but Watson still has way too many drops.

We don't need a DHop or a Evans. We need a GOOD number 2 and a solid 3.

Rice will end up being a #1, he just doesn't have that deep speed. We need a 2 that can push the deep end of the defense and a third guy that has reliable hands.

Just with that we will have a top 3 offense.

This should be obvious at this point.

In theory they did the right thing with Toney and Sky getting younger and cheaper. They just gambled on the wrong guys and possibly the wrong coach at the wrong time.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I want to aim higher than you.

You love mediocre offense and punting.


This class is loaded with talent. I want an Alpha WR, not some weird Skyy Moore/MVS hybrid that will get bullied.

I just think you’re unrealistic about the ease of acquiring an “alpha” WR. And the need to have an “alpha.”

They need to improve the WR room. If they spend a second round pick on one, or better, the odds are good that’s an improvement at one spot.

You rail on Hardman because some guys who went below him were better than him, but that doesn’t mean he was a bust automatically. He didn’t blossom into a star but was a useful contributor for 4 years. That’s not a bad return on a 2nd by any means.

Rice is obviously a major hit and Moore is a major bust.

Percentages here are pretty good, and those are the only big draft swings they’ve taken on WR in the past 7 years.

The offense bogged down this year because teams stopped respecting the deep ball. KC needs to counter that, and there are multiple options for it.

Adding an “alpha” isn’t the only way to fix that.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I just think you’re unrealistic about the ease of acquiring an “alpha” WR. And the need to have an “alpha.”

They need to improve the WR room. If they spend a second round pick on one, or better, the odds are good that’s an improvement at one spot.

You rail on Hardman because some guys who went below him were better than him, but that doesn’t mean he was a bust automatically. He didn’t blossom into a star but was a useful contributor for 4 years. That’s not a bad return on a 2nd by any means.

Rice is obviously a major hit and Moore is a major bust.

Percentages here are pretty good, and those are the only big draft swings they’ve taken on WR in the past 7 years.

The offense bogged down this year because teams stopped respecting the deep ball. KC needs to counter that, and there are multiple options for it.

Adding an “alpha” isn’t the only way to fix that.

Some of the best posters on this board have tried to explain to him and he refuses to even acknowledge that they have a point. If the Dinosaurs were wrong the dolphins would have won it all. No matter how many times we break it down to him like a child he won’t understand positional balance, roster depth or the salary cap.

MOAR WIDE RACEVERS NOW

Remember when we had 3 high end weapons and Kareem hunt? But we couldn’t field a defense? Yeah great times.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Some of the best posters on this board have tried to explain to him and he refuses to even acknowledge that they have a point. If the Dinosaurs were wrong the dolphins would have won it all. No matter how many times we break it down to him like a child he won’t understand positional balance, roster depth or the salary cap.

MOAR WIDE RACEVERS NOW

Remember when we had 3 high end weapons and Kareem hunt? But we couldn’t field a defense? Yeah great times.

You forgot to add that the Chiefs winning 2 SBs after trading Tyreek while having these arguments isn't enough to drive the point home either.

Now he'll probably come along and pretend that means I'm saying we shouldn't upgrade the WR position, when I clearly said we should and will.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You forgot to add that the Chiefs winning 2 SBs after trading Tyreek while having these arguments isn't enough to drive the point home either.

Now he'll probably come along and pretend that means I'm saying we shouldn't upgrade the WR position, when I clearly said we should and will.

Well it’s obvious to me you came up in the Len Dawson era and think Mahomes should throw to rice and three ace gunners.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The 2018 offense isn’t coming back and by now people should accept it and understand why.

No different than why the Bengals will struggle to replicate some of their better offenses they’ve had. Mahomes and Tyreek on rookie deals with two really good offensive tackles isn’t happening again.

Pretty much this.

If we signed Mike Evans to a big contract, yeah we might have the #1 offense again, but you can say goodbye to that defense we just built. We're already penny pinching as it is. Signing a big name WR just doesn't seem like the way.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You forgot to add that the Chiefs winning 2 SBs after trading Tyreek while having these arguments isn't enough to drive the point home either.

Now he'll probably come along and pretend that means I'm saying we shouldn't upgrade the WR position, when I clearly said we should and will.

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[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by RunKC

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But it’s working so good for everyone else!

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You forgot to add that the Chiefs winning 2 SBs after trading Tyreek while having these arguments isn't enough to drive the point home either.

Now he'll probably come along and pretend that means I'm saying we shouldn't upgrade the WR position, when I clearly said we should and will.

He's big on lying about your position and calling people old dinosaurs. That's about the sum of his input.

[Chris Meck]

It's going to be Mooney. I'm almost sure. Rice, Mooney, probably Mecole on the cheap, Watson and a top 64 pick. And it's going to be fine.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I just think you’re unrealistic about the ease of acquiring an “alpha” WR. And the need to have an “alpha.”

They need to improve the WR room. If they spend a second round pick on one, or better, the odds are good that’s an improvement at one spot.

You rail on Hardman because some guys who went below him were better than him, but that doesn’t mean he was a bust automatically. He didn’t blossom into a star but was a useful contributor for 4 years. That’s not a bad return on a 2nd by any means.

Rice is obviously a major hit and Moore is a major bust.

Percentages here are pretty good, and those are the only big draft swings they’ve taken on WR in the past 7 years.

The offense bogged down this year because teams stopped respecting the deep ball. KC needs to counter that, and there are multiple options for it.

Adding an “alpha” isn’t the only way to fix that.

Hardman wasn't a bust. He was made useful enough in that version of the KC offense because there were already 2 HOF weapons clearing space and even a WR in Hardman who couldn't crack the WORST offensive skill weapons in the NFL did something for us.

But should we be aspiring to selecting another Hardman?

I don't think so.

I would rather take a DK Metcalf or a Terry McLaurin, both of who I thought were 1st round talents that year or a Diontae Johnson, a MAC receiver I loved later on.

If we had taken Terry McLaurin over Hardman I don't think Cinci ever beats us the year they went to the SB. Our offense would have been too deadly with

Tyreek Hill
McLaurin
Kelce

No one stopping that even the brilliant Lou.


I think a lot of the teams that think its their turn or time like Cinci, Baltimore, Buffalo, Houston, Indy, etc are praying KC continues to give Mahomes one of the worst WR groups in the NFL.

I would prefer to give Mahomes the tools to destroy people. That also helps the defense because the pressure is now on teams and they can't kill clock, run power all game which they got away with a lot last year.

The other issue that people keep glossing over is Kelce. He looked younger in the playoffs but why beat him up game after game after game next year?

This is a loaded WR draft. Get an elite weapon on offense that can grow into that role.

Take the vertical decoy in the 3rd, 4th or 5th round in addition to the alpha round 1.

Time to draft some offense and grab a high traits LT possibility in the 2nd or 3rd to compete with Wanya and let the best man win.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by RunKC

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We won 2 2B's with elite offense you moron.


I know you hate Mahomes scoring and love sideways passes and Matt Nagy and horrible WR's.


We can have an elite offense and a top defense in the same year...you're allowed to do that...

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I just think you’re unrealistic about the ease of acquiring an “alpha” WR. And the need to have an “alpha.”

They need to improve the WR room. If they spend a second round pick on one, or better, the odds are good that’s an improvement at one spot.

You rail on Hardman because some guys who went below him were better than him, but that doesn’t mean he was a bust automatically. He didn’t blossom into a star but was a useful contributor for 4 years. That’s not a bad return on a 2nd by any means.

Rice is obviously a major hit and Moore is a major bust.

Percentages here are pretty good, and those are the only big draft swings they’ve taken on WR in the past 7 years.

The offense bogged down this year because teams stopped respecting the deep ball. KC needs to counter that, and there are multiple options for it.

Adding an “alpha” isn’t the only way to fix that.

For whatever reason, MahomesMagic seems to think every 1st or 2nd round WR should be a Reggie Wayne, when in reality they're more likely to be a Mecole Hardman.

The only reason you'd be upset about Hardman is because DK Metcalf exists. So yeah, just draft the right player every single time, right? All the drafturbators make it seem so easy, we should have a 100% success rate at this point.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

He's big on lying about your position and calling people old dinosaurs. That's about the sum of his input.

I've never seen a fan on this board be so frustrated that their team won a Super Bowl bc they didn't win it the way he wanted. It's the weirdest shit ever

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

In theory they did the right thing with Toney and Sky getting younger and cheaper. They just gambled on the wrong guys and possibly the wrong coach at the wrong time.

Mecole outplayed Skyy and Toney. In week one I never imagined I'd be saying that.