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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:26 AM   #1381
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Convinced some fans would rather lose 41-38 than win 25-22 if it means we scored points and didn't punt.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:32 AM   #1382
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The 2018 offense isn’t coming back and by now people should accept it and understand why.

No different than why the Bengals will struggle to replicate some of their better offenses they’ve had. Mahomes and Tyreek on rookie deals with two really good offensive tackles isn’t happening again.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:41 AM   #1383
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Tim Grunhard was on 610 yesterday and said he sees no way they can keep Chris Jones.
He's probably just jelly that he's got no rings.
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Tim Grunhard was on 610 yesterday and said he sees no way they can keep Chris Jones.
Did he say why?
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:51 AM   #1385
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Did he say why?
I mean, it has to be money.
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Old 02-25-2024, 09:56 AM   #1386
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I want to aim higher than you.

You love mediocre offense and punting.


This class is loaded with talent. I want an Alpha WR, not some weird Skyy Moore/MVS hybrid that will get bullied.
What a load of ****ing shit.

My actual argument:

We don't need a WR better than Rice to have the best offense in the league, we just need 2 other WRs that are better than MVS and Watson.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:01 AM   #1387
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Convinced some fans would rather lose 41-38 than win 25-22 if it means we scored points and didn't punt.

I dont think thats true, but in a game of give and take right now, i think our defense can afford a loss of a great player in Order to stabilize a less threatening wr corps.

Take away either jones or sneed and yes its a big loss, but its not going to handicap the defense in the same way our lack of wr weapons handicapped the offense last season.

This offseason is about re-balancing.


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Old 02-25-2024, 10:05 AM   #1388
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The 2018 offense isn’t coming back and by now people should accept it and understand why.

No different than why the Bengals will struggle to replicate some of their better offenses they’ve had. Mahomes and Tyreek on rookie deals with two really good offensive tackles isn’t happening again.
"You just aren't aiming high enough because you're a dinosaur that loves mediocre offense and punting!"

We'd all love to have the best offense in the NFL, with the best QB, best TE, best WRs, and best OL!

Some of us just live in reality and understand that this offense doesn't need to have future HOFers everywhere to be the best in the NFL.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:24 AM   #1389
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What a load of ****ing shit.

My actual argument:

We don't need a WR better than Rice to have the best offense in the league, we just need 2 other WRs that are better than MVS and Watson.
Just minimizing all those self inflicted wounds will go a long way.
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Old 02-25-2024, 10:28 AM   #1390
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2022 should be our goal for every year. Strong offense, good defense that can rise to the occasion when needed.

2023 wasn't 2022 bc of injuries, age and stupid errors. Staylor is right. Just get younger players that can do their job and we roll. Toney and MVS alone lost us 2 games, if not 3.
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What a load of ****ing shit.

My actual argument:

We don't need a WR better than Rice to have the best offense in the league, we just need 2 other WRs that are better than MVS and Watson.
This.

We immediately got better as soon as we sat down Moore and Toney.

MVS stepped up in the playoffs, but Watson still has way too many drops.

We don't need a DHop or a Evans. We need a GOOD number 2 and a solid 3.

Rice will end up being a #1, he just doesn't have that deep speed. We need a 2 that can push the deep end of the defense and a third guy that has reliable hands.

Just with that we will have a top 3 offense.

This should be obvious at this point.
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It's pretty crazy how we went from "still haven't replaced JuJu" in the middle of the season to us now needing Rice (who's clearly better) AND a guy that's even better than him just to even dream of having the best offense in the NFL.
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2022 just looks more impressive the farther we get from it. I won't be surprised if that remains Mahomes best season after his career is over. In that regard, I'm not sure how replicable it is to get the #1 offense with that level of talent. But the team doesn't need the #1 offense if we can keep this defense playing at a high level.
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It's pretty crazy how we went from "still haven't replaced JuJu" in the middle of the season to us now needing Rice (who's clearly better) AND a guy that's even better than him just to even dream of having the best offense in the NFL.
I'm with you bro.

The last thing I want is more 30+ points needed to win the game.

Play break-your-foot-off-in-ass defense, and let Pat make 2-3 superman plays a game with Kelce, Rice, and a good number 2 and run the ball.

I mean the formula is unstoppable.
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I'm with you bro.

The last thing I want is more 30+ points needed to win the game.

Play break-your-foot-off-in-ass defense, and let Pat make 2-3 superman plays a game with Kelce, Rice, and a good number 2 and run the ball.

I mean the formula is unstoppable.
I'm arguing for an upgrade at WR2 AND WR3.

That's an offense that can get you 30+ when needed.

With Mahomes, Kelce, Rice, Pacheco, and a good OL, we aren't THAT far off.
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