***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[2112]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Why are they having a run on bottled water? I've heard no reports of water supplies being contaminated, transferred somehow because of tap water.

I understand in a tornado or hurricane, the pipes that carry the water get damaged, But this is a head scratcher

The town I live in has some shady tap water, I posted the contaminants earlier in this thread. I only use tap water for coffee tea or oat meal. This is going on 3 weeks people stock piling bottled water

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

NY didn’t expect to be the next Italy.

They should have expected it though. What other place in the US is so perfect for a virus like this? Crowded, busy, international, lots of travel and tourists

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by D2112

What about our low mortality rate here in the US (1.3%) compared to the anti vaccination European countries like Italy (9.6%) ? That’s good news. We have more people being tested and less people dying in the United States. There’s my good news for you to frown on

That's ok news. Keep looking.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by D2112

The town I live in has some shady tap water, I posted the contaminants earlier in this thread. I only use tap water for coffee tea or oat meal. This is going on 3 weeks people stock piling bottled water

I think you'll be fine there little buddy

[2112]

Originally Posted by O.city

What does any vaccination have to do with this?

We vaccinate like 165 million people for the flu here in the US. Italy does not. Do you see how overwhelmed Italy’s hospitals are?

[Bugeater]

Here's some good news! eDave now has 4 boxes of Kleenex in his possession! Way to go eDave!

[wazu]

Originally Posted by D2112

We vaccinate like 165 million people for the flu here in the US. Italy does not. Do you see how overwhelmed Italy’s hospitals are?

Are you under the belief that flu shots somehow prevent coronavirus?

[Marcellus]

Outside of NY area and LA, does it seem like this thing isn't really growing at much of any real rate?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

See you just couldn't let it go. You had to continue on. This isn't about me, When its happened with multiple people, its about you.

How many people have you beefed with in this thread for PAGES? You are the one that needs to chill and stop attacking everyone who's not buying your everything is rainbows schtick.

Firstly I was quoting someone else. Secondly you're the one who makes a beef with anyone that isn't on your end of the world train.

Just like you're doing now. No one attacked you. People are pointing out that you do nothing but focus on the negative and to an extreme.

No one is painting rainbows. Stop being so freaking overly-emotional.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Outside of NY area and LA, does it seem like this thing isn't really growing at much of any real rate?

I'm not sure about other states but in Pennsylvania it is varying widely. One day it might jump at 51% next day 40% next day 31% next day 45%.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Firstly I was quoting someone else. Secondly you're the one who makes a beef with anyone that isn't on your end of the world train.

Just like you're doing now. No one attacked you. People are pointing out that you do nothing but focus on the negative and to an extreme.

No one is painting rainbows. Stop being so freaking overly-emotional.

You did attack him. He posted an article and then you accused him of only talking about negative news about the CoronaVirus. This isn't a "Only post positive news NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread" it's "NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread"

As long as news comes from a reputable source and it isn't political there's no reason anyone should be attacked for posting news related to the CoronaVirus.

[2112]

Originally Posted by wazu

Are you under the belief that flu shots somehow prevent coronavirus?

No, but if we didn’t vaccinate 165 million people for the flu how many people for the flu would be in the hospital right now on top of the corona virus? It’s helping not to overwhelm our health care system and more resources can be directed towards covid 19. The mortality numbers back it up

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by wazu

Are you under the belief that flu shots somehow prevent coronavirus?

I don't think there is any link that has been shown to prove that but at the end of the day would you be surprised to find out that there was some kind of link at least with some people?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Outside of NY area and LA, does it seem like this thing isn't really growing at much of any real rate?

It’s because of testing and lack there of

Once New York ramped up testing they starting finding the cases. It’s probably the same everywhere else it’s just not having the light shown on it yet

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Outside of NY area and LA, does it seem like this thing isn't really growing at much of any real rate?

I don't know how anyone could reach this conclusion.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by D2112

No, but if we didn’t vaccinate 165 million people for the flu how many people for the flu would be in the hospital right now on top of the corona virus? It’s helping not to overwhelm our health care system and more resources can be directed towards covid 19. The mortality numbers back it up

We’re out of peak flu season