Chiefs trying to trade Justin Houston

[ToxSocks]

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Chiefs talking to teams about trading OLB Justin Houston.

We doubt they're successful. Houston turned 30 last month and carries an exorbitant $21.1 million cap hit. If the Chiefs don't find a trade partner, they're fully expected to release Houston, especially with Dee Ford likely coming back on either a big-money deal or the franchise tag. Houston's play has slipped in recent years, but he can be an effective sub-package rusher off the edge

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[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Sounds like either Steve Spagnuolo didn't like what he saw on film, or the FO is looking to free up some money. Maybe a combo of both. I think parting ways with Houston and Berry would be a good thing for the franchise. A little financial pain in the short term, but still worth it. New beginning for the defense.

Agreed.

A bit of money to garner a solid FA or two, and in the case of a Berry cut, money that can be used to extend Hill and Jones.

Landon Collins come on down....

[Bump]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Great....can't wait for KC to rely on Breeland Speaks.

The 2nd round pick from the year before Speaks, sure would be nice if we got anything out of him too, anything!

[FAX]

If he goes, that will be another great player who gave us everything he had and wound up with nothing significant in his resume. No jewelry. Just a bag.

What a waste.

FAX

[bricks]

Originally Posted by FAX

If he goes, that will be another great player who gave us everything he had and wound up with nothing significant in his resume. No jewelry. Just a bag.

What a waste.

FAX

Yeah that kinda sucks.

Its just the way things played out.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Frazod

Honestly, there's nobody from last year's _efense that I'd miss if they got whacked.

Whack 'em all. Sell Ford while the stock is high and keep Jones. Let the rest of it be built.

[JakeF]

Houston is still better than Ford. His play rebounded once he was put on the line of scrimmage. Some team is going to pick him up for 8m and play him at DE. He'll give them 15 sacks every year.

Selling low, buying high ... it's the Chiefs' way.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Bump

The 2nd round pick from the year before Speaks, sure would be nice if we got anything out of him too, anything!

Agreed.

I would do ****ing cartwheels if Speaks and KPass end up producing as 43DE's...which is what the played in college.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by JakeF

Houston is still better than Ford. His play rebounded once he was put on the line of scrimmage. Some team is going to pick him up for 8m and play him at DE. He'll give them 15 sacks every year.

Selling low, buying high ... it's the Chiefs' way.

I disagree.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Agreed.

I would do ****ing cartwheels if Speaks and KPass end up producing as 43DE's...which is what the played in college.

I think it's safe to say that's the plan. Kind of a gamble but if they yield fruit, Veach looks like a genius.

[jaa1025]

There is no way I can see the Chiefs bringing back Houston with that cap hit. He's unwilling to restructure without more guarantee's which makes since because it's a weak pass rushing market and he could get more in FA.

I'd be hopeful for a 3rd but it would probably be a 4th IMO. 30 YO 3-4 OLB that's showing signs of decline (still very good), has significant injury history and has huge cap hits over the next two seasons.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by jaa1025

There is no way I can see the Chiefs bringing back Houston with that cap hit. He's unwilling to restructure without more guarantee's which makes since because it's a weak pass rushing market and he could get more in FA.

I'd be hopeful for a 3rd but it would probably be a 4th IMO. 30 YO 3-4 OLB that's showing signs of decline (still very good), has significant injury history and has huge cap hits over the next two seasons.

Thankfully, the market doesn't operate in the same way most fans do and/or think. We tend to look at things as if we we're selling a used car or a house, while there's so much more beyond the surface. They also have to factor in experience and football smarts as well. Also, how does this player fit with our locker room/culture as well as our scheme?
From an arbitrary standpoint, it would be nice if Houston were a couple of years younger, but because he has proven he can still compete at a high level, I don't see how getting a 3rd should be a problem with the right trading partner.

[Cosmos]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

I take a 4th for the cap relief. Also the round the Chiefs do not currently have a pick in.

Agreed, reasonable deal when considered in its entirety.

[Buckweath]

Dont care. Just get this guy out of KC.

I literally cannot stand a guy who clearly has been overpaid the last two seasons and who refuses to restructure when it is so obvious this team is going all in for a SB next season.

I'm thinking I want Berry out too. We all loved the player and the leader but he is another guy who played hardball when negotiating his contract and has proved not to be worth even close to what was given to him.

Tyreek Hill is another guy who will be asking for a mega contract but at least he has given this team years of great play for peanuts and there is good reason to think he will give many more years of great play.

Chris Jones will want his money too but he sounds more reasonable to me and he is so easy to like.

[Angry fan]

This is why Le'veon Bell held out. Guaranteed money is the only real number to look at for a player. NFL teams can cut you whenever they feel like it. Treating players like a piece of meat. Callous!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

If we hadn't signed that piece of shit Smith a year earlier than was necessary, we wouldn't even be having this debate. If you want to be mad at Houston, be mad that team chose to stupidly let him gamble on himself and come up a winner.

When they didn't have to.