Football COVID Memo from the NFL - Page 8

BleedingRed · 07-22-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The hell with the vaccine itself, this is about the rights of individuals and if people can be forced to undergo procedures they aren't willing to take by an employer looking to cover their own ass. And it is exactly about that. The easy answer is "well if (person) doesn't like it, they can work elsewhere!", but nobody wants to talk about the slippery slope that creates.

If I was a player I would demand to know every other players communicable diseases and demand that they be removed from playing.

**DaFace** · 07-22-2021, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The hell with the vaccine itself, this is about the rights of individuals and if people can be forced to undergo procedures they aren't willing to take by an employer looking to cover their own ass. And it is exactly about that. The easy answer is "well if (person) doesn't like it, they can work elsewhere!", but nobody wants to talk about the slippery slope that creates.

Say DeAndre contracts COVID and ends up costing the team a conservative estimate of $50 million as a result of a cancelled game. Who should be responsible for all of that lost revenue? Do all of his teammates and everyone else involved just take the loss?

(And, yes, I know vaccines aren't 100%, but not getting one increases your risk by a factor of 10x to 20x.)

BleedingRed · 07-22-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Say DeAndre contracts COVID and ends up costing the team a conservative estimate of $50 million as a result of a cancelled game. Who should be responsible for all of that lost revenue? Do all of his teammates and everyone else involved just take the loss?

(And, yes, I know vaccines aren't 100%, but not getting one increases your risk by a factor of 10x to 20x.)

Vaccinated team mate gives it Dhop, how do you determine whose fault it is?

**Bowser** · 07-22-2021, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Say DeAndre contracts COVID and ends up costing the team a conservative estimate of $50 million as a result of a cancelled game. Who should be responsible for all of that lost revenue? Do all of his teammates and everyone else involved just take the loss?

(And, yes, I know vaccines aren't 100%, but not getting one increases your risk by a factor of 10x to 20x.)

I understand the ramifications of what might happen. I'm more curious about the angle of employees not just being told to take it or else, but that his fellow employees being punished for something they had no part of.

chiefzilla1501 · 07-22-2021, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I understand the ramifications of what might happen. I'm more curious about the angle of employees not just being told to take it or else, but that his fellow employees being punished for something they had no part of.

What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.

BleedingRed · 07-22-2021, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.

Again the vaccine has a 1% chance of stopping you from getting COVID. That is called ARR (Absolute Risk Reduction). So you can be vaccinated and still give the virus to others.

**Bowser** · 07-22-2021, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

What about the angle of the employer that is not allowed to do anything to prevent an outbreak that could cause them to lose millions? What if this was a manufacturing line? So what, the plant has to just deal with a massive supply disruption on account of this? There are plenty of professions, sports being a huge one, where you can't have irreplaceable players miss a few weeks.

And what happens when the Cardinals forfeit a game and their checks, then Hopkins tests negative for Covid? From everything we're being told, the vaccinated can come down with the variants, right? What if it was Kyler Murray that picked it up from a friend of his mom's housekeeper that wasn't vaccinated? What then?

**wazu** · 07-22-2021, 02:49 PM

Arizona fans are having a rough week.

Kiimo · 07-22-2021, 02:52 PM

Everybody should get ****ing vaccinated what is hard about THAT to understand?

You're a dumbshit if you don't get vaccinated. Full stop.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 07-22-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Everybody should get ****ing vaccinated what is hard about THAT to understand?

You're a dumbshit if you don't get vaccinated. Full stop.

My dads platoon in Desert Storm took an experimental drug. Some did and some didn’t. Out of the 18 who took the drug, 10 of them are in a wheelchair. This is why I choose not to get the vaccine until it’s actually approved

Chief Roundup · 07-22-2021, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

My dads platoon in Desert Storm took an experimental drug. Some did and some didn’t. Out of the 18 who took the drug, 10 of them are in a wheelchair. This is why I choose not to get the vaccine until it’s actually approved

You should look into the FDA and things that they approve and what those things have caused or how they are not really regulated.

suzzer99 · 07-22-2021, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

My dads platoon in Desert Storm took an experimental drug. Some did and some didn’t. Out of the 18 who took the drug, 10 of them are in a wheelchair. This is why I choose not to get the vaccine until it’s actually approved

It's going to be approved by the FDA in September. We'll have maybe 2 months more data about vaccines than now. Do you really think that's going to make a huge difference?

BleedingRed · 07-22-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Everybody should get ****ing vaccinated what is hard about THAT to understand?

You're a dumbshit if you don't get vaccinated. Full stop.

Not a single healthy child has died from covid.

Kiimo · 07-22-2021, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Not a single healthy child has died from covid.

https://www.ky3.com/2021/07/22/arkan...-deaths-covid/

five hours ago

BleedingRed · 07-22-2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

https://www.ky3.com/2021/07/22/arkan...-deaths-covid/

five hours ago

You understand John Hopkins released a study calling this bullshit right?

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