NFL Combine QB workout thread

[RealSNR]

Coverage starts at 8 AM Sunday on NFL Network. No idea when QBs will actually throw, but GoWalrus has promised to get clips of Geno's workout. No idea if he'll get any of the others.

Here is what we can expect the throwing drills to look like:

Through the combine, they get a good idea about whether the player name is likely to light up the football scoreboards in the future.

They want to see the quarterback’s 3-step drop, 5-step drop, 7-step drop and within those drops the reps want to see the QB go through the route tree. What’s the route tree? The QB is asked to run a slant, an out, a throw in, a corner route (7 route) and the deep route (the go).

Many quarterbacks worry that as they don’t personally know the receiver and have never played with them, they might throw over or under them giving the reps an inaccurate estimate of their skill. However, the reps do not care whether the receiver catches the pass or not. All they are interested in is seeing the quarterback’s footwork while they are running the 3-step drop, the 5-step drop and the 7-step drop.

In the 3-step drop they want to see how the quarterback handles and positions the ball: under-center. This is because most quarterbacks in college have never been under-center; they’re usually all back in the spread. They see and study the footwork, how the QB plants himself and drives the throw.

In the 5-step drop (intermediate route), the QB has to take 3 big steps and 2 small steps, get the ball and throw it out right away. Therefore, their footwork is essential.
In the 7-step drop (a deeper throw) the footwork, again, is very critical. Bill Walsh said that he could tell by looking at the quarterback’s feet (footwork) whether he had a good or a bad game. The second thing they notice is the carriage i.e. how the quarterback carries the football. Is it up towards the shoulder or is it below towards the center of the chest and stomach. However, ever since Philip Rivers no one can positively judge the quarterback through the position of his carriage.

Finally, they look into the arm strength. This is why the quarterbacks are asked to throw the 7 route and the deep route. The reps watch the quarterbacks drop back 5 to 7 yards and throw the football. They want to see how quickly and accurately it comes out of the quarterback’s hands.

[the Talking Can]

man tie fail o

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Hilarious that people wanted to draft him at #1 overall not too long ago.

Not just people...experts.

[Saccopoo]

Jon Bostic is absolutely destroying the combine right now. His shuttle drill was ridiculously good. With Te'o shitting the bed, he might be gone by the time the Chiefs draft in the third.

[B14ckmon]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

LOL!

Gabbert is the poor man's Matt Cassel. If anyone goes fetal faster than Matty, it's Gabbert!

And you'll be moving Monroe over to RT once you draft Joeckel.

Congratulations on being the one person on the planet who thinks there is any chance the Jaguars would take Joeckel.

Have fun popping the cyanide when Alex Smith rolls into the BBQ-land.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Nah kid. We have Monroe under contract still. We are taking a pass rusher. Enjoy Alex "Poor Man's Gabbert" Smith.

I will enjoy Alex playing in a Jags uniform.

Your GM said he has to bring in some competition. I am pretty sure you will see Alex in well, whatever that color is your team has

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Congratulations on being the one person on the planet who thinks there is any chance the Jaguars would take Joeckel.

Have fun popping the cyanide when Alex Smith rolls into the BBQ-land.

It's not me, it's the money ball concept that Khan Jr. is going to apply to the draft and team building from here on out.

Just get on base.

3.5 yards per possession is all you need to matriculate the ball down the field.

You are going to have to protect the quarterback and secure the running lanes. Right now, the Jags don't have a feasible right offensive tackle. Monroe would slide over to that position and Joeckel would be the new left tackle. Talented bookends that would protect the QB and be a boon in the running game.

A pass rusher is that home run hitter that stikes out three times more than he hits the home run. Spending a first on a that position, if you are applying numerical metrics to such a situation, doesn't fit. They'll probably go pass rush in the second as there are a number of guys who are in this draft that can get after the QB that will be available then.

However, after the first two tackles, it's a weak draft for that position. They are going to run with Gabbert and he needs much better protection. As well, if you don't open the lanes for MJD, that nullifies your 3.5 yard potential every single time.

Khan Jr. is completely in charge of changing the Jags team from a personel perspective and he's going to use modern numerical metrics as a prime contributor in determining that roster. You can bet your bottom dollar that Joeckel will be seriously considered by the Jags at the #2 spot for that reason alone.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Teo will be a 3rd rounder or later, IMO. He doesn't look ready to be a starter in the league anytime soon.

Manti L'ol

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Jon Bostic is absolutely destroying the combine right now. His shuttle drill was ridiculously good. With Te'o shitting the bed, he might be gone by the time the Chiefs draft in the third.

Zaviar Gooden as well.

Criminally mis-used and coached at Mizzou (by the GREAT Dave Steckel), but he's a physical freak of nature.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

(by the GREAT Dave Steckel)

I'll take "Words I'd Never Thought to See Used Together in a Sentence" for $1000, Alex.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I'll take "Words I'd Never Thought to See Used Together in a Sentence" for $1000, Alex.

The sad thing is that Missouri has multiple coaches worse at their job than Stec:

Brian Jones
Bruce Walker
Alex Grinch
Cornell Ford (could make a case for it)

[The Franchise]

@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

Good God. I bet even Frankie can do that.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

@RavensInsider Former LSU cornerback Tyrann Mathieu bench presses 225 pounds 4 times

another guy who's stupidity is going to cost him big in the draft.


Nobody really cares about his strength but it tells the teams that he didn't care enough to workout.

still a screw up

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Good God. I bet even Frankie can do that.