Chiefs Mahomes Injury - Page 71

58-4ever · 10-17-2019, 07:13 PM

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RunKC · 10-22-2019, 08:52 AM

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11-5

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worst.

And only 2 of those games are away games. Mexico City will likely be more of a home game for us

Frazod · 10-22-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

And only 2 of those games are away games. Mexico City will likely be more of a home game for us

It will be a home game for us if Mahomes plays.

RunKC · 10-22-2019, 09:07 AM

Have to be 12-4 if we want the 2 seed. Hard to see the Colts or Texans finishing with more than 5 losses

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:10 AM

Everyone wants to talk about being a dynasty like the Pats. Can't trade high picks, gotta build thru the draft gotta do this and that.

Well, you wanna be a dynasty? Stop caring so much about the division. The Pats dont' give a shit about their division, they care about getting HFA and getting a bye.

Marcellus · 10-22-2019, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to talk about being a dynasty like the Pats. Can't trade high picks, gotta build thru the draft gotta do this and that.

Well, you wanna be a dynasty? Stop caring so much about the division. The Pats dont' give a shit about their division, they care about getting HFA and getting a bye.

Yup. We can't take shit for granted, every game counts.

And really if Reid was smart enough, we could protect Mahomes if we run a more conservative run more often, quick pass offense with Pat at QB and still be a better offense than with Moore out there.

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:17 AM

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Yup. We can't take shit for granted, every game counts.

And really if Reid was smart enough, we could protect Mahomes if we run a more conservative run more often, quick pass offense with Pat at QB and still be a better offense than with Moore out there.

Yeah, you wouldn't even have to run more. Just run more quick game stuff for Pat with the WR's we have. Go back to the Alex smoke screens and stuff for a while to get him healthy if you want.

I don't give a shit about 10 wins and the division win and a 4 seed. Enough with that bullshit. It's one more playoff game, one more game for someone to get hurt etc.

Win 12, get the 2 seed and go from there.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-22-2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Have to be 12-4 if we want the 2 seed. Hard to see the Colts or Texans finishing with more than 5 losses

Buffalo is 5-1 and could easily also go 12-4 with their schedule.

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:18 AM

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Buffalo is 5-1 and could easily also go 12-4 with their schedule.

They're in the AFCe with NE, so they don't really matter.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-22-2019, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Have to be 12-4 if we want the 2 seed. Hard to see the Colts or Texans finishing with more than 5 losses

If Baltimore ends up 11-5 too, we have a shot to win that tiebreaker.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-22-2019, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everyone wants to talk about being a dynasty like the Pats. Can't trade high picks, gotta build thru the draft gotta do this and that.

Well, you wanna be a dynasty? Stop caring so much about the division. The Pats dont' give a shit about their division, they care about getting HFA and getting a bye.

The reason they are a dynasty is because Tom Brady has been there for a century. Sorry, I know people want to play best case scenario with mahomes' health. But it is absolutely crazy to think he has this magical healing power and that there isn't some long term reinjury risk in putting him back on the field too soon. The severity of injury and bracing reduces that risk. But it is still a risk. We have also had multiple playoff games where we were told Justin Houston and tamba Hali were healthy, we rushed them back, and they ended up getting reinjured.

Nobody wants to only win the division. Anyone who is focused on the division wants to make absolutely sure we get the best version of mahomes in the playoffs and the rest of his career. Especially with mobility... What if a few extra games gets you a more mobile version of mahomes, and id have to think that's the case especially with that ankle. Would you rather a 75% mahomes and a playoff bye or a much healthier mahomes for 3 playoff games. I'm definitely taking the latter.

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:32 AM

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The reason they are a dynasty is because Tom Brady has been there for a century. Sorry, I know people want to play best case scenario with mahomes' health. But it is absolutely crazy to think he has this magical healing power and that there isn't some long term reinjury risk in putting him back on the field too soon. The severity of injury and bracing reduces that risk. But it is still a risk. We have also had multiple playoff games where we were told Justin Houston and tamba Hali were healthy, we rushed them back, and they ended up getting reinjured.

Nobody wants to only win the division. Anyone who is focused on the division wants to make absolutely sure we get the best version of mahomes in the playoffs and the rest of his career. Especially with mobility... What if a few extra games gets you a more mobile version of mahomes, and id have to think that's the case especially with that ankle. Would you rather a 75% mahomes and a playoff bye or a much healthier mahomes for 3 playoff games. I'm definitely taking the latter.

If him playing again this year is a risk to the rest of his career, just shut him down for the rest of the season now and look towards next year.

It's ****ing football. People get hurt. They aren't gonna rush him back and put him out there if he could get hurt and miss a large chunk of time or never be the same.

A 75% Mahomes is gonna get a week or two off at the end of the year before the playoffs if you get the bye.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-22-2019, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If him playing again this year is a risk to the rest of his career, just shut him down for the rest of the season now and look towards next year.

It's ****ing football. People get hurt. They aren't gonna rush him back and put him out there if he could get hurt and miss a large chunk of time or never be the same.

A 75% Mahomes is gonna get a week or two off at the end of the year before the playoffs if you get the bye.

Good grief, we aren't talking about a stinger. We are talking about an ankle sprain that has literally impacted games when he's hit the wrong way. Second half mahomes we saw vs Houston and indy isn't beating new England in the playoffs. You can't tell me a few weeks off doesn't dramatically reduce likelihood of that.

And when we're talking long term injury, we're talking about the known fact that this specific kneecap injury has a risk of dislocating again. Yes, we are accepting that risk, but its common sense that injuries this major will always benefit from time and rehab. Mahomes will more than accept that risk. That doesn't mean we should let him. Our risk tolerance is based on how badly we want to win the next few games. Sorry, but my risk tolerance is incredibly low when it comes to a franchise qb we've waited decades to get.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-22-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

If him playing again this year is a risk to the rest of his career, just shut him down for the rest of the season now and look towards next year.

It's ****ing football. People get hurt. They aren't gonna rush him back and put him out there if he could get hurt and miss a large chunk of time or never be the same.

A 75% Mahomes is gonna get a week or two off at the end of the year before the playoffs if you get the bye.

Also, does anybody really think that mahomes playing 9 more games on an unhealed ankle then getting a bye week is going to heal nearly as well as getting it right now and letting him play the rest of the season on a healthier ankle? I sure don't

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:48 AM

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Good grief, we aren't talking about a stinger. We are talking about an ankle sprain that has literally impacted games when he's hit the wrong way. Second half mahomes we saw vs Houston and indy isn't beating new England in the playoffs. You can't tell me a few weeks off doesn't dramatically reduce likelihood of that.

And when we're talking long term injury, we're talking about the known fact that this specific kneecap injury has a risk of dislocating again. Yes, we are accepting that risk, but its common sense that injuries this major will always benefit from time and rehab. Mahomes will more than accept that risk. That doesn't mean we should let him. Our risk tolerance is based on how badly we want to win the next few games. Sorry, but my risk tolerance is incredibly low when it comes to a franchise qb we've waited decades to get.

Ok, then again, if a high ankle sprain plus a dislocated knee will take a long time to get to 100%, you better go ahead and sit him for the rest of the year and come back next year.

Sit him til after the bye and he comes back 100 percent but the Chiefs are 5-5, you've got issues.

O.city · 10-22-2019, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Also, does anybody really think that mahomes playing 9 more games on an unhealed ankle then getting a bye week is going to heal nearly as well as getting it right now and letting him play the rest of the season on a healthier ankle? I sure don't

He looked fine playing on an "unhealed" ankle in the first half against the Texans and Colts.

Guys get hurt and play thru shit. If we're gonna not play guys that aren't 100 percent, no one will be playing after week 4.

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