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Old 11-09-2022, 05:48 PM  
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YOUNG AMERICANS
The USMNT was by far the youngest team to qualify for the 2022 FIFA World Cup, garnering valuable experience going through the rigors of World Cup qualifying. Through 14 qualifiers, the USA Starting XI came in at an average of 23.82, almost two years younger than the next closest team, Ghana at 25.67. Together, the other 31 participating teams averaged a Starting XI age of 27.5 through qualifying, nearly four full years older than the U.S. Sources say this is one of the youngest, but most talented teams the U.S. has ever fielded. While they may not win the world cup this year, they may garner the experience needed to make a serious run on home soil in the year 2026 when the World Cup comes back to North America.

2022 USA World Cup Roster

FORWARDS
Jesús Ferreira (FC Dallas)
Jordan Morris (Seattle Sounders)
Christian Pulisic (Chelsea)
Gio Reyna (Borussia Dortmund)
Josh Sargent (Norwich City)
Timothy Weah (Lille)
Haji Wright (Antalyaspor)

MIDFIELDERS
Brenden Aaronson (Leeds United)
Kellyn Acosta (LAFC)
Tyler Adams (Leeds United)
Luca de la Torre (Celta Vigo)
Weston McKennie (Juventus)
Yunus Musah (Valencia)
Cristian Roldan (Seattle Sounders)

DEFENDERS
Cameron Carter-Vickers (Celtic)
Sergiño Dest (AC Milan)
Aaron Long (New York Red Bulls)
Shaq Moore (Nashville SC)
Tim Ream (Fulham)
Antonee Robinson (Fulham)
Joe Scally (Borussia Monchengladbach)
DeAndre Yedlin (Inter Miami)
Walker Zimmerman (Nashville SC)

GOALKEEPERS
Ethan Horvath (Luton Town)
Sean Johnson (NYCFC)
Matt Turner (Arsenal)

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Old 11-29-2022, 04:09 PM   #1051
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I've always wondered if there's not a defensive strategy to 'force' an offsides call.

I mean, if the 'back' defender rushes forward as the ball is being played, could he not effectively wreck the play? And because of that, doesn't it take a TON of starch out of the possible run? Afterall, it would seem to make a hard crash from the forward all but impossible when you have to worry about the defender 'creating' an offsides.

Is there a "no, your defenseman was a dipshit and ran himself out of the play" exception to this rule?

It's the biggest struggle I've had with soccer rules. You can know enough about hockey for most of soccer to make sense, but an offsides being determined by a moving target has always been tough to wrap my head around.
yes it's called an offside trap, where the backline pushes up quckly to try and catch the forward off. the risk is that if it doesn't work, you can let the attackers in behind you.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:09 PM   #1052
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I've always wondered if there's not a defensive strategy to 'force' an offsides call.

I mean, if the 'back' defender rushes forward as the ball is being played, could he not effectively wreck the play? And because of that, doesn't it take a TON of starch out of the possible run? Afterall, it would seem to make a hard crash from the forward all but impossible when you have to worry about the defender 'creating' an offsides.

Is there a "no, your defenseman was a dipshit and ran himself out of the play" exception to this rule?

It's the biggest struggle I've had with soccer rules. You can know enough about hockey for most of soccer to make sense, but an offsides being determined by a moving target has always been tough to wrap my head around.
I mean, it's a strategy, but it's hard as hell to execute perfectly AND egregious enough such that the offside is FOR SURE called. Otherwise, you're giving up a goal, most likely.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:11 PM   #1053
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:12 PM   #1054
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:12 PM   #1055
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Who was in at the 9 at the end? With like 45 seconds left in stoppage he was passed the ball and took a lame shot right at the keeper (he wasn't in an ideal place to score). Why not dribble to the corner and kill the clock? At worst you earn an out-of-bounds or a corner. Anyone else frustrated by that lack of game awareness?
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:13 PM   #1056
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yes it's called an offside trap, where the backline pushes up quckly to try and catch the forward off. the risk if that if it doesn't work, you can let the attackers in behind you.
Yeah, I figured it would need to be an 'oh shit' kind of play if you see that you're probably screwed here so rather than even attempt to defend the play, you try to force the foul.

It seems way to risky to just bust it out on occasion (and the risk wouldn't seem to justify the reward). But it seemed like there could be situations where your defense has completely broken down and rather than try to fend off a 2 on 1 or something, you just try to book it clear of that forwardmost player and at worst, force him to stop his run.

I dunno - there's probably a practical reason why this is not done all that often. But even with that possibility in play, I would think it REALLY hampers offense.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:14 PM   #1057
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Who was in at the 9 at the end? With like 45 seconds left in stoppage he was passed the ball and took a lame shot right at the keeper (he wasn't in an ideal place to score). Why not dribble to the corner and kill the clock? At worst you earn an out-of-bounds or a corner. Anyone else frustrated by that lack of game awareness?
Wright, I believe.

And yeah, that seemed like a ball he definitely should've taken to the corner. Even I kinda understood that was a bit of a vaporlock.
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Old 11-29-2022, 04:15 PM   #1058
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Have they said what he suffered? I know it was "an abdominal injury", but I'm not sure what that means. And, UGH (!!!!), I don't have replay ability anymore...
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Have they said what he suffered? I know it was "an abdominal injury", but I'm not sure what that means. And, UGH (!!!!), I don't have replay ability anymore...
I think the hospital trip was out of caution because he had some dizziness. As far as the real injury who knows. Seems and though.
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Who was in at the 9 at the end? With like 45 seconds left in stoppage he was passed the ball and took a lame shot right at the keeper (he wasn't in an ideal place to score). Why not dribble to the corner and kill the clock? At worst you earn an out-of-bounds or a corner. Anyone else frustrated by that lack of game awareness?
Yeah, that was a selfish play. His teammates and coach need to have a chat with him about doing that.

Sucks for Pulisic if he's injured. He's always been talented but too much of a brokedick with his injuries (no pun intended).
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I've always wondered if there's not a defensive strategy to 'force' an offsides call.

I mean, if the 'back' defender rushes forward as the ball is being played, could he not effectively wreck the play? And because of that, doesn't it take a TON of starch out of the possible run? Afterall, it would seem to make a hard crash from the forward all but impossible when you have to worry about the defender 'creating' an offsides.

Is there a "no, your defenseman was a dipshit and ran himself out of the play" exception to this rule?

It's the biggest struggle I've had with soccer rules. You can know enough about hockey for most of soccer to make sense, but an offsides being determined by a moving target has always been tough to wrap my head around.

Yeah. We used to try offsides traps a lot in high school,but it takes a ton of coordination and trust in teammates to pull off. If one lazy bum is slow to push then it ruins the whole thing and you get wrecked by attackers pouring behind you with a head of steam
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I mean, it's a strategy, but it's hard as hell to execute perfectly AND egregious enough such that the offside is FOR SURE called. Otherwise, you're giving up a goal, most likely.
The ball becomes the offside line if say 2 players are alone with the goalie , which really ticks up kids , also no offsides on throw ins and corners, unless you go short then offsides cone back into play .

Offside traps we’ll coordinated can work but one missed timed one and you are screwed.
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I think the hospital trip was out of caution because he had some dizziness. As far as the real injury who knows. Seems and though.
He seemed to finish the half from what I understand as I missed the first half due to meetings. If that’s the case I doubt it’s anything too serious.
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