***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[bricks]

How crazy is it that it took 67 days for the spread of coronavirus to reach 100,000 cases and then another 11 days to reach another 100,000 and then 4 days to reach another 100,000.

This is a crazy exponential increase. This thing is accelerating in its spread. It has already gone over 400,000 but Im not sure how many days it took to reach another 100,000 cases? Im thinking maybe less than 2 days?

Shits unreal. This thing is on a mad ****ing rampage. It seems like the more people that get infected, the more aggressive and faster it works. And, its invisible. Thats ****ed.

[KCrockaholic]

Originally Posted by bricks

How crazy is it that it took 67 days for the spread of coronavirus to reach 100,000 cases and then another 11 days to reach another 100,000 and then 4 days to reach another 100,000.

This is a crazy exponential increase. This thing is accelerating in its spread. It has already gone over 400,000 but Im not sure how many days it took to reach another 100,000 cases. Im thinking less than maybe 2 days?

Shits unreal. This thing is on a mad ****ing rampage. It seems like the more people that get infected, the more aggressive and faster it works. And, its invisible. Thats ****ed.

Well they say for every 1 person infected then another 3 will get it, so it makes sense that it's still spreading like crazy. The problem seems to be that incubation period where people can go a week or more with no symptoms and feel fine.

It's incredible we can live in a world with such a strange virus yet such perfection like Trevor Lawrence's GF.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

Well they say for every 1 person infected then another 3 will get it, so it makes sense that it's still spreading like crazy. The problem seems to be that incubation period where people can go a week or more with no symptoms and feel fine

Thats the thing thats ****ed and makes it so hard to contain.

Im not convinced that self-isolation and social distancing is enough.

We have to attack this thing eventually.

[bricks]

Defense doesn’t win alone.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

His girlfriend is also setting up a bake sale at her middle school.

geeezzz he’s a lucky man. Hot as **** GF who also gives a shit about helping others.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by BWillie

It was the flu. If it wasn't. Our ICU's would have been ran down in the end of February. Instead of that starting to occur now.

You can't possibly know that with any degree of certainty at all.

It appears that <2% of cases are in the severe-critical range. If the virus was just ramping up and there were only 100,000 people infected at that point, you should only see around 2000 in hospitals. I have no clue what the real numbers are/were but that's the point, no one does. We probably won't even have a clue on those until a year or two from now.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

You can't possibly know that with any degree of certainty at all.

It appears that <2% of cases are in the severe-critical range. If the virus was just ramping up and there were only 100,000 people infected at that point, you should only see around 2000 in hospitals. I have no clue what the real numbers are/were but that's the point, no one does. We probably won't even have a clue on those until a year or two from now.

And I don’t think we ever will have a clue because its countries like China that will skew the numbers. In no way do I and many others believe that China has just 3,000 cases when this thing originated and spread from there over 3 months ago given the amount of people there and considering how aggressive, subtle and fast this virus is attacking the rest of the world.

[eDave]

Bill Gates COVID-19 AMA:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...melinda_gates/

[dirk digler]

Here in MO we had strict testing rules because they wanted to keep the numbers low now they are going to open them up after so many people bitched. They still haven't issued a state wide shutdown.

Missouri state heath officials loosened the criteria for getting tested for COVID-19 this week following weeks of complaints that tight guidelines meant few sick people were eligible.

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services announced the new guidance Monday, saying health care professionals should now use their judgment in deciding who to test.

Previously, Missouri set narrow perimeters to ration test kits: A patient had to have symptoms severe enough to be hospitalized, or have symptoms plus known contact with someone who already tested positive for COVID-19. Patients could also get tested if they had symptoms and also had recently traveled to an area with a documented widespread outbreak.


The loosened restrictions this week bring Missouri in line with the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which updated its guidelines for testing March 5 to defer to physicians.

With the new rules in Missouri and efforts to increase capacity in Illinois, officials in both states say totals of those testing positive for the virus are likely to increase.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Fish

In another update, the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services said there are now 255 positive COVID-19

New data released by the Kansas Department of Health and Environment says Kansas is now up to 98 positive COVID-19 cases. Of the 98 positive cases, 41 of those tests were returned by KDHE labs, and 57 came from private labs. More than 2,000 negative tests have been returned. According to a release from the state, the youngest COVID-19 patient is just 7-years-old, and the oldest is 90.

https://www.kmbc.com/article/covid-1...ounty/31871736

I wish Missouri would tell is how many tests they've run.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I'm a fan

I'd eat her out after he creampied her

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'd eat her out after he creampied her

I wouldn't recommend this.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I'd eat her out after he creampied her

Yeah.....no.

[BigRedChief]

A week ago, New York state had 87 detected coronavirus cases per 1m citizens

Here's where a lot of Southern states are *today*... the number of *detected* cases.

LA: 298 per 1m
MS: 107 per 1m
TN: 98 per 1m
GA: 98 per 1m
AR: 72 per 1m
FL: 66 per 1m
SC: 59 per 1m
AL: 44 per 1m

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 24, 2020

Other than Louisiana, which has really ramped up its testing, a lot of those states may be about a week behind the curve in New York in terms of both social distancing *and* testing/case-detection.

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 24, 2020

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic

I'm a fan

She's hot af, but oof malloof. . . Are we recruiting athletes from Na'vi now?