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Old 12-18-2022, 11:48 PM   #1
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Maliek Collins #96 Texans is a KC kid. played at Center HS and was also undefeated state champion wrestler. That must be how he learned to sling someone like that. Should have been a personal foul to put that much oomph into slinging a player into the ground.

Rachaard White, rookie with Bucs, also went to Center HS in KC. He fumbled returning the opening kickoff when Chiefs played Bucs this year. So each of them had memorable plays against their hometown team.
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Old 12-19-2022, 03:26 AM   #2
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Cheffers and Maliek Collins should both be fined and/or suspended. They both smell of elderberries!
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Old 12-19-2022, 05:56 AM   #3
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I particularly liked when the defender was flagged for getting shoved to the ground by a receiver.

I also don’t think Smith-Schuster’s “fumble” was legit. The ball didn’t pop loose until he hit the ground.
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Old 12-19-2022, 07:12 AM   #4
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I particularly liked when the defender was flagged for getting shoved to the ground by a receiver.

I also don’t think Smith-Schuster’s “fumble” was legit. The ball didn’t pop loose until he hit the ground.
Loved that blindside block on the same play lolz give them the ball and 15 to kickstart the drive. Ye ole 14 point swing mateys!
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Old 12-19-2022, 07:25 AM   #5
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Old 12-19-2022, 07:45 AM   #6
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Old 12-19-2022, 08:44 AM   #7
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The blindside block was not made by the referee Cheffers, it was called by the side judge.
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:25 PM   #8
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The blindside block was not made by the referee Cheffers, it was called by the side judge.
If you are fixing games, the entire crew would most likely be involved. This way no one can out another... or they are all just incompetent and like to throw flags and create controversy...
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Old 12-19-2022, 04:54 PM   #9
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If you havent seen the Tim Donaghy story on Netflix, you should watch it.


The NFL is the only league where NO Official has ever done anything wrong.

Watch that show and then tell me theres no way that happens in the NFL.

Its not fixing games, its more like steering them. Of course there are officials who dont like certain coaches or teams or players. Its human nature. Gambling is human nature. Wanting to make a ton of money is human nature.

There are plenty of ways the NFL could fix this but they dont!

They could make everything reviewable, afterall isnt it more important to get it right?

They could allow Coaches to challenge anything?

They could have someone in New York watching the games (Dean Blandino) who weighs in on controversial calls and is able to over ride decisions based on many different camera angles that maybe the Ref didnt see.
This isnt a knock on officials as they only have one point of view. Its an effort to get calls right.

These would also prevent officials from "steering" a game.
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Old 12-19-2022, 06:42 PM   #10
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If you havent seen the Tim Donaghy story on Netflix, you should watch it.


The NFL is the only league where NO Official has ever done anything wrong.

Watch that show and then tell me theres no way that happens in the NFL.

Its not fixing games, its more like steering them. Of course there are officials who dont like certain coaches or teams or players. Its human nature. Gambling is human nature. Wanting to make a ton of money is human nature.

There are plenty of ways the NFL could fix this but they dont!

They could make everything reviewable, afterall isnt it more important to get it right?

They could allow Coaches to challenge anything?

They could have someone in New York watching the games (Dean Blandino) who weighs in on controversial calls and is able to over ride decisions based on many different camera angles that maybe the Ref didnt see.
This isnt a knock on officials as they only have one point of view. Its an effort to get calls right.

These would also prevent officials from "steering" a game.
Oh refs do things wrong and I don’t doubt that the NFL knows it. Problem is that if a player/coach/executive says anything the league fines them. With the popularity of the sport networks are fighting for rights to carry games. They won’t risk losing that after their contracts end.

I do agree that they should make everything reviewable. Not sure how much that would change things. Would coaches still be limited on challenges or would they get more?
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You are correct. I was wrong about which play it was.
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The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.
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The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.
That crew sucks in general and throws way too many flags.
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The thing is that this crew had litany of terrible calls that were definitely lopsided in Houston's favor and it's ok to acknowledge they sucked and not strain for justifications for their putrid performance.
No doubt they sucked. Put as for extending drives on 3rd down penalties on passing plays. The Texans were playing that Lovie Smith Tampa 2 zone scheme and not using hands before the ball got there, they were trying to hit the intended receiver and cause incompletions or turnovers.

If the other team is not using hands on receivers and the officials are calling DBs using hands on receivers, change your technique and stop getting penalty calls.

It was poor officiating and it was one sided, but one sided on pass defense starts to become the Chiefs fault if they do not adjust for the way pass defense is being officiated.
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Carl Cheffers has a massive issue with Travis Kelce and likely the fan base after the Raider game.

You saw a ref crew make it personal yesterday.
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