Overreaction from last night: Cut Eric Fisher after 2018

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Dr Fisher didn't have a good game

Doctor of what?

Should hit that **** with a malpractice suit.

[Naptown Chief]

Why are you wasting time on this turd? Isn't there a CB who's thread is being neglected?

Erving might be better than Fisher at tackle and Fisher might be better than Erving at guard.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon

Erving might be better than Fisher at tackle and Fisher might be better than Erving at guard.

kill yourself

[suzzer99]

No longer in the spotlight, Eric Fisher has persevered to help the Chiefs’ explosive offense

Fisher, with little fanfare, is in the midst of producing the best season of his career. He has played well enough to be a candidate for his first Pro Bowl honor. In eight games, Fisher has been responsible for only one of the 10 sacks opposing defenses have recorded against Mahomes.

He has blocked the best pass rushers in the NFL and has given Mahomes enough time to break record after record each week. In the past month, Fisher has aided Hunt’s production with timely, athletic blocks on the perimeter. And he has committed just five penalties this season, the last one coming three weeks ago in the Chiefs’ lone loss to the Patriots.

“I’ve faced some adversity that a lot of people wouldn’t face in the league, just the expectation and some things that just happened over the years,” Fisher said. “If you put me in the position now that I was in then, I think it would be a much different scenario. There’s truth behind that. There’s a lot to learn in this league, whether it’s on the field or off the field.”

One of Fisher’s biggest benefits is that he has only had to learn one offensive playbook under Reid. He also moved to the left tackle position on a full-time basis in 2016 after the Chiefs signed Schwartz. By playing opposite of Schwartz, Fisher said he has learned from his teammate how to better perform his techniques when blocking.

In the Chiefs’ past two victories, Fisher has accomplished any task Reid has asked of him.

Fisher has become more comfortable in his role the longer he has played in a Chiefs uniform. He has watched Reid add skill player after skill player in the past six seasons. With each new teammate, Fisher has bonded with them through jokes. And Fisher has been satisfied with such an approach. It gives him the space to improve his performance in a quiet manner.

“I don’t have quit in me,” he said. “I’m going to do my job until I can’t do it anymore. That’s something I personally take pride in. I don’t care what you throw at me. I’m going to get back up and I’ll be right back there.”

And this from the comments was eye-opening:

2013 turned out to be such a horrible draft. All but a handful of 1st rounders are out of football or a back-up. A re-draft would probably have:
1. D Hopkins ( picked in the 20s)
2. Lane Johnson (4th overall)
3. L Bell (2nd round)
4. Kelce (3rd round)
5. Fisher

Arguably 2 in the top 5 - not bad.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I know Johnson is a great player but you gotta take Kelce over him IMO. He’s jsut more of a game changer. Nobody has been able to cover that guy for like 4-5 years now.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I know Johnson is a great player but you gotta take Kelce over him IMO. He’s jsut more of a game changer. Nobody has been able to cover that guy for like 4-5 years now.

Johnson also has some injury history of his own, a suspension for PEDs (IIRC) and has only ever been an effective RT.

I'd absolutely take Kelce over him and I think there's an argument that you take Fisher ahead of him. We simply don't know if Johnson can do the job on the left that Fisher has.

Fisher's a solid ballplayer and really has been since 2015. He's not a 1.1 in a normal draft but the 2013 draft was just a piece of shit - there's only so much can be done about that. At least we didn't take Joekel or Jordan or Cooper.

The guy they should have mentioned but didn't was taken several rounds later - David Bakhtiari. He's been a damn steady player for GB; as reliable as Johnson has been at a position with a higher degree of difficulty.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Fisher has been healthy and effective at a premium position. I'm glad we have him.

[Lzen]

Heard a national guy on the radio the other day (Gannon?) say they KC has the best 2 tackles in all of football. Wow, that's quite a statement!

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Heard a national guy on the radio the other day (Gannon?) say they KC has the best 2 tackles in all of football. Wow, that's quite a statement!

As a duo, they very well might.

The Chiefs have bookends they can pretty much leave on an island and know they'll get the job done 90% of the time. You can't go empty as often as we do if you don't have guys you trust at LT and RT.

Think of how often we assign those guys a lock-down role and they come through. It's a luxury that few teams have.

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

As a duo, they very well might.

The Chiefs have bookends they can pretty much leave on an island and know they'll get the job done 90% of the time. You can't go empty as often as we do if you don't have guys you trust at LT and RT.

Think of how often we assign those guys a lock-down role and they come through. It's a luxury that few teams have.

Mahomes quick release and pocket awareness inflate our OLine a ton imo.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

As a duo, they very well might.

The Chiefs have bookends they can pretty much leave on an island and know they'll get the job done 90% of the time. You can't go empty as often as we do if you don't have guys you trust at LT and RT.

Think of how often we assign those guys a lock-down role and they come through. It's a luxury that few teams have.

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Mahomes quick release and pocket awareness inflate our OLine a ton imo.

I think you have some of both.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Molitoth

Mahomes quick release and pocket awareness inflate our OLine a ton imo.

Helps cover for the interior, no question.

But those outside guys are doing work, man. And yes, Mahomes helps, but there's no way Reid exposes Mahomes to those rushers by having Fisher and Schwartz operate without help as often as he does if he isn't completely confident in them.

Neither guy is Munoz, to be sure - but they're both good players and having 2 guys like that to prevent teams from just rolling their rush to one side or the other gives Reid a ton of latitude.

When Reid spent most of the 2nd half of that Steelers game rolling empty formations, you knew we were onto something with these tackles. That's just not something you do with a rookie QB on the road against a defense that likes to get after QBs if you don't trust those dudes.

As is the case with everything in the league - it's all relative. But if you go down the list, you'd have a damn hard time finding bookend tackles you'd swap with ours. You'll find better individuals, but I can't think of a better pair.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Helps cover for the interior, no question.

But those outside guys are doing work, man. And yes, Mahomes helps, but there's no way Reid exposes Mahomes to those rushers by having Fisher and Schwartz operate without help as often as he does if he isn't completely confident in them.

Neither guy is Munoz, to be sure - but they're both good players and having 2 guys like that to prevent teams from just rolling their rush to one side or the other gives Reid a ton of latitude.

When Reid spent most of the 2nd half of that Steelers game rolling empty formations, you knew we were onto something with these tackles. That's just not something you do with a rookie QB on the road against a defense that likes to get after QBs if you don't trust those dudes.

As is the case with everything in the league - it's all relative. But if you go down the list, you'd have a damn hard time finding bookend tackles you'd swap with ours. You'll find better individuals, but I can't think of a better pair.

Isn't it crazy how terrible Alex made this line look. I remember arguing with a couple of guys that said Alex never had enough time to go deep. If you watched the game you'd see Alex run into multiple sacks.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Helps cover for the interior, no question.

But those outside guys are doing work, man. And yes, Mahomes helps, but there's no way Reid exposes Mahomes to those rushers by having Fisher and Schwartz operate without help as often as he does if he isn't completely confident in them.

Neither guy is Munoz, to be sure - but they're both good players and having 2 guys like that to prevent teams from just rolling their rush to one side or the other gives Reid a ton of latitude.

When Reid spent most of the 2nd half of that Steelers game rolling empty formations, you knew we were onto something with these tackles. That's just not something you do with a rookie QB on the road against a defense that likes to get after QBs if you don't trust those dudes.

As is the case with everything in the league - it's all relative. But if you go down the list, you'd have a damn hard time finding bookend tackles you'd swap with ours. You'll find better individuals, but I can't think of a better pair.

Chiefs are paying top dollar for those 2 guys. Each one is Top 4 in cap hit at their position. Be interesting to see how things play out in the future.