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Old 08-09-2018, 06:22 AM   #1
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Defensive players are just refusing to acknowledge the 'we are not going to pay you like a quarterback' thing.

If Donald or Mack would sign for a percentage kicker over what Von Miller signed for, I'm betting the deals get done. I just don't feel like they're willing to do that. They're hell-bent on re-setting the market for elite defensive players and getting them paid like they're a quarterback.

It's not gonna happen, lads. If they'd sign a deal with something like $75 million in guarantees and maybe $82 million over the first 4 years of the deal (who really gives a crap about the last year or two; fake money), I bet they'd get their contract done.

But when the Rams can tag Donald three times for a total of $55 million, just exactly how does he think he's gonna get them to pay him $25 million/season? Even Mack's 3 time franchise figure is 'only' $67 million. They're barking for money that no sane franchise would give them.

I'd be just as pleased to see the Raiders capitulate to Mack as I would see them trade him. Go ahead and extend a guy at $23 million/season through his age 31 season. See how that works out for you. Or hell, go ahead and trade him out of the division - I certainly wouldn't mind seeing him gone either. Personally, I think Mack's put them in a lose/lose situation here.

As for Donald - whatev; not my division, don't care. He can decide to retire if he wants but it's pretty silly to me that the Rams have him under team control for $55 million if they want over the three years after this one and he's effectively asking them to 'gift' him another $20 million. You don't like the rules - talk to your player rep. Maybe next time you guys won't get walloped in the CBA quite so badly.
I agree with all of this, and Mack will likely report at least in time for week 1. I don't think the Raiders will pay him more than $20-21 million a year, which is still a huge chunk of change, and they have him for the next three years minimum regardless of what he wants to do.
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Old 08-08-2018, 12:53 PM   #2
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:08 PM   #3
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Live here locally so I get tons of raider news. Sounds like their camp is going great and LT Miller is further along than they could even hope. Penn is injured and being asked to restructure his contract. Not hearing any trade rumors regarding Mack but who knows? He still has a year left on his contract.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:33 PM   #4
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Live here locally so I get tons of raider news. Sounds like their camp is going great and LT Miller is further along than they could even hope. Penn is injured and being asked to restructure his contract. Not hearing any trade rumors regarding Mack but who knows? He still has a year left on his contract.
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:56 PM   #5
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Live here locally so I get tons of raider news. Sounds like their camp is going great and LT Miller is further along than they could even hope. Penn is injured and being asked to restructure his contract. Not hearing any trade rumors regarding Mack but who knows? He still has a year left on his contract.
The only trade rumors about Mack are those started by bored sportswriters. He is still on his rookie deal and we can franchise tag his butt for two years.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:09 PM   #6
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Apparently Martavis Bryant can't figure out the playbook and Gruden isn't happy.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:15 PM   #7
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Apparently Martavis Bryant can't figure out the playbook and Gruden isn't happy.
This comes as a surprise to no one. Bryant is a ****ing moron.
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Old 08-08-2018, 02:20 PM   #8
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:05 PM   #9
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What was it? 10 years since the Callahan Super Bowl and no playoffs? Something like that?

Then they finally find a decent QB and some talent here and there... and POOF! It's all gone because they went all in on Gruden.

God, it might be another 10 years before they make the playoffs again.
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It will take time but Gruden will get them back on track.

I'd guess a year or two to get back in the groove...
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It will take time but Gruden will get them back on track.

I'd guess a year or two to get back in the groove...
Doubt it.
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Old 08-09-2018, 10:43 AM   #15
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Doubt it.
Look into him.

The smarmy prick is hella smaht...
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