***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

I think entire concept of "gift" is lost on you.

Nah. I have given plenty of gifts in my time.

There is a time and a place.

Tone deaf text.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Rukdafaidas

Send him some MRE's.

Fantastic idea. I bet he'd eat them, too.

"Dear Seabass,

Someday you'll understand how much this means, especially compared to all the other useless crap on your mom's Amazon list."

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Nah. I have given plenty of gifts in my time.

There is a time and a place.

Tone deaf text.

Maybe its just me, but I wish I had that option when my nieces and nephews were young. Not wondering if the kid already had the present you bought (or if it was something they wanted); not having to leave the house to get it. Simply pressing a button and presto, kid gets present it wants? That is a win/win for everyone in my opinion.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Should be and are are 2 completely different things. Today's kids are far more spoiled and entitled.

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Whip that ass

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Maybe its just me, but I wish I had that option when my nieces and nephews were young. Not wondering if the kid already had the present you bought (or if it was something they wanted); not having to leave the house to get it. Simply pressing a button and presto, kid gets present it wants? That is a win/win for everyone in my opinion.

Yeah seems like a good idea to me also. Figure it came from wedding and baby showers, at least those are the first places I ever heard of that happening.

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[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Whip that ass

Yeah right. You gonna bend those 18 to 24 year olds across your knee.

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[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

My niece is 31 and I have noticed that everything is an inconvenience to her being able to live the life she wants. She doesn't care what anyone or generations had to go through in their lives.

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This.

OH MY IT HAPPENED

[Mecca]

It's not just about being entitled, young people have been that way for a long ass time. It's because of the instant gratification of the way society is now, being told they can't do what they want right now is something they aren't use to at all.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Our son is a millennial. He's been social distancing with us last week. They are not all irresponsible.

Wait a second... what? We shouldn't just pigeonhole people into groups whenever we disagree with one person's opinion or lifestyle, etc; who happens to be in that group?

Are you actually trying to say it's possible that a person is more than the predetermined judgments of someone else?

Could you imagine such a world, where we weren't a bunch of teenage girls?

GTFO, (I want to string together a bunch of groups into one long name, but then I'd had to kick myself out of the thread).

[BleedingRed]

so Generation Z doesnt exist now... I'm 31 how the **** does my generation stretch all the way back

[Donger]

New York showing another 5,000 new cases today so far.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

so Generation Z doesnt exist now... I'm 31 how the **** does my generation stretch all the way back

Millennial is a flawed way to describe a 20 year cohort of people considering the oldest ones didn't get a cell phone until they were in the first part of their careers while the youngest ones had them as elementary schoolers.

[displacedinMN]

Minn govenor in isolation after exposure.

Govt officials having a hard time staying away from people

OH MY IT HAPPENED

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

This is pretty cool and shows how international travel from China screwed everybody.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mid=tw-nytimes

Behind a paywall, can you summerize or quote?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Donger

New York showing another 5,000 new cases today so far.

If they’re doubling every 2 days that will end up at 7500-ish today.

They really need to get it to every week to stand a shot. That number would be closer to 5,800.

I also understand that they’re testing more and will capture more but the protocol for testing still limits it to sick patients unless I’m mistaken.