DeNiro, Pacino, Pesci, Scorsese.....The Irishman trailer

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by scho63

The facts of this movie have fallen apart. 99.9% fiction

How do you make a movie around Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance based on facts when no one knows the facts?

The movie is based on a book told by Sheeran.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How do you make a movie around Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance based on facts when no one knows the facts?

The movie is based on a book told by Sheeran.

Because Sheeran's stories are being debunked.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by scho63

Because Sheeran's stories are being debunked.

Being debunked by people who have 20 different theories about how he died themselves. He was chopped up and put in sausage. No wait he was buried alive under a horse barn. No wait he was dumped in a landfill owned by the mob... etc, etc.

Scorsese himself said it wasnt important to have a historically accurate account of what happened because we'll never know for sure. It's just a compelling story told by an insider and ya it's probably fabricated by someone trying to sell a book but thats the same story as the rest of the guys who probably have some knowledge of what happened. It's the Black Dahlia, Zodiac, Jack the Ripper.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Being debunked by people who have 20 different theories about how he died themselves. He was chopped up and put in sausage. No wait he was buried alive under a horse barn. No wait he was dumped in a landfill owned by the mob... etc, etc.

Possibly, due to what DeNiro's character claimed in the movie, that only parts of a hit are revealed to each player involved so no one knows the whole truth about it.

[Dallas Chief]

It wasn’t as good as I wanted it to be and not as bad as some have said. Soundtrack could have been better which is something Scorsese usually has on point (Goodfellas, Casino, and the Departed come to mind.) Any good links disputing the storyline for my lazy ass?

[ShiftyEyedWaterboy]

Haven't seen it yet but can anyone tell me how this Sheeran killed Hoffa theory stacks up? There are so many claims with this and MLK that it's hard for me take any seriously.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It was solid. Dragged quite a bit, but a good watch.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

It was solid. Dragged quite a bit, but a good watch.

It is. I don’t understand why people are complaining? What did they expect?

It’s still very well made and the cast is beyond Iconic.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

You would watch Expendables 10, Deberg. Tell it true....

[cdcox]

It's slow. If it had been a theatrical release, there would be an hour of cellulose acetate lying on the floor. It had some good moments. Will watch again to stitch together details.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by cdcox

It's slow. If it had been a theatrical release, there would be an hour of cellulose acetate lying on the floor. It had some good moments. Will watch again to stitch together details.

I saw it in a theater. It was boring/disappointing.

[Simply Red]

It was great, until

Spoiler!

Al Pacino came into the film. He's unwatchable in this movie.

[Mennonite]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

It was great, until

Spoiler!

Al Pacino came into the film. He's unwatchable in this movie.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

It was great, until

Spoiler!

Al Pacino came into the film. He's unwatchable in this movie.

So I'm about halfway; Hoffa's clearly on the scene now.

I'm not actually opposed to how Pacino's portraying him. Hoffa was, by most accounts, a fiery dude who had a hell of a temper. Going over the top to play him isn't exactly unreasonable.

I think the problem isn't Pacino in this movie, it's Pacino in every other movie he's made in the last 20 years and the audience reaction to him. We're just kinda worn thin on his particular form of scenery chewing. This is pretty much just what Pacino does now so all we see is Pacino. We don't see Pacino playing Hoffa.

Should Scorsese have seen that coming and cast someone else in the role? Possibly. I think you can criticize Scorsese for the casting choice because it is a little difficult to stay in the movie when he's on the screen. All you see is Pacino in much the same way that Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise.

But in a vacuum, had we not been 'treated' to 2 decades of Pacino shouting, I don't think we'd have a problem with how he handles the role in this movie. It's not like it's as bizarre as him playing King Richard or anything...

[alanm]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So I'm about halfway; Hoffa's clearly on the scene now.

I'm not actually opposed to how Pacino's portraying him. Hoffa was, by most accounts, a fiery dude who had a hell of a temper. Going over the top to play him isn't exactly unreasonable.

I think the problem isn't Pacino in this movie, it's Pacino in every other movie he's made in the last 20 years and the audience reaction to him. We're just kinda worn thin on his particular form of scenery chewing. This is pretty much just what Pacino does now so all we see is Pacino. We don't see Pacino playing Hoffa.

Should Scorsese have seen that coming and cast someone else in the role? Possibly. I think you can criticize Scorsese for the casting choice because it is a little difficult to stay in the movie when he's on the screen. All you see is Pacino in much the same way that Tom Cruise is always Tom Cruise.

But in a vacuum, had we not been 'treated' to 2 decades of Pacino shouting, I don't think we'd have a problem with how he handles the role in this movie. It's not like it's as bizarre as him playing King Richard or anything...

Pacino was good in this movie. Hoffa was a idiot. My best guess he was retired in the Greart lakes. Just my take. WTF do I know know I'm just a retired @@@ Agent.