***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

We would be providing for ourselves.

Come on. You know if it was that simple we would all be working now.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Do you have any idea what would happen if we all were working right now and everyone was going out partying? I just want to hear what you think would happen. I'm curious because i thought most ppl through logical thinking have moved on from this way of thinking.

It is math:

The only thing we have control over is how fast the infection spreads and how many ventilators we have access to. Otherwise it is:

Current infected x
Number of times daily infections double in 14 days =
Total Infected x
20% who require hospitalization x
25% who require life support =
Number who need ventilators -
Number of ventilators available x
90% unaided critical patients =
Total Deaths

[arrowheadnation]

Yeah, Dollar General and Dollar tree have been money for me. The only thing I haven't found is Lysol. I didn't need TP but they had it the other day. The drawback is that an employee coughed on me the other day.

[suzzer99]

Not going to shock anyone but my old boss, who's Russian, told me he knows people who have the symptoms but can't get tested because the govt doesn't want to mess up the statistics.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

We are choosing to allow our elected officials to take away our individual rights to decide what is essential for our lives. I don’t know about you, but going to work everyday is essential to my existence. They are saying otherwise, like they some how know me and my life and can reasonably make that decision for me.

We are choosing to wreck the lives of the masses economically and through the loss of natural rights/civil liberties to save the lives of a few.

It absolutely is hysteria and overreaction.

Its good you apparently like what you do but I think that is a sad way to go thru life.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Consider yourself lucky to find hot dogs. The minute they started closing schools all the kid food disappeared almost instantly.

Yea, frozen pizzas, burritos, hell, even the lunchables were gone at the Walmart here.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Yeah, Dollar General and Dollar tree have been money for me. The only thing I haven't found is Lysol. I didn't need TP but they had it the other day. The drawback is that an employee coughed on me the other day.

Dollar store TP has to be brutal on the flow hole. John Wayne toilet paper if you will. It's rough, tough and doesn't take crap off of anybody.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Fauci hates all the conversations about the drugs they’re hoping work.

Every time they bring it up he does all he can not to roll his eyes.

Why though?

[PAChiefsGuy]

FDA just approved a Coronavirus test that gives results in 45-mins.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...es/ar-BB11w5kY

[eDave]

Fauci is on in the background. Thought it was Larry David being interviewed.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Fauci hates all the conversations about the drugs they’re hoping work.

Every time they bring it up he does all he can not to roll his eyes.

the dude is the most important person on the planet right now. He knows all this forwards and backwards 10X over. He’s trained all the other infectious disease doctors. And he’s giving it to us straight.

There is not going to be a vaccine or cure for awhile. Long after this initial crisis is over.

[TLO]

I think we're going to see a lot of these "shelter in place" orders coming through for cities across the country this week.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

Yeah, Dollar General and Dollar tree have been money for me. The only thing I haven't found is Lysol. I didn't need TP but they had it the other day. The drawback is that an employee coughed on me the other day.

TP but getting coughed on doesn’t sound like a good trade off.

[suzzer99]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...smell-11961439

New study *suggests* that an early warning sign may be losing your sense of taste and smell. Just something to keep in mind for anyone who lives with an at risk person.

A person on another forum confirmed said he knows two people who tested positive and this happened to them.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Yea, frozen pizzas, burritos, hell, even the lunchables were gone at the Walmart here.

Yeah all the frozen Pizza's were gone here yesterday as well. I had stocked up deep on them the week before though. A guy is probably going to hang on 20 pounds by the time this thing is over. I guess it's time to knock the dust off the weights out in the garage.