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Old 02-08-2024, 04:42 PM  
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Brett Veach prioritizing re-signing Chris Jones, L'Jarius Sneed

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HENDERSON, Nev. -- Kansas City Chiefs general manager Brett Veach said he is aware of the challenge the organization faces in re-signing both defensive tackle Chris Jones and cornerback L'Jarius Sneed but said it would be an offseason priority to get both players under new contracts.

"Sometimes I look at our situation and I'm like, 'I don't know how we're going to do this,' but we usually work through things systematically and have a list of the priorities,'' Veach said as the Chiefs continued preparations for Super Bowl LVIII against the San Francisco 49ers. "Certainly, Chris and LJ are at the top of the list.

"It's extremely hard because you have two keystone players there.''

Jones, 29, has been one of the NFL's top pass-rushers for years. He had 10.5 sacks this season to tie for the team lead after missing training camp and the first regular-season game while holding out for a new contract.

He didn't get the extension he was looking for, but the Chiefs sweetened the final season of his existing contract.

"It was important for us to mend the fences with Chris because we love him and he's an iconic player here, not just here, but I mean of all time,'' Veach said. "That was important for us, and we'll continue to work hard and see if we can get something done, but it will be a priority for us.''

The Chiefs used Sneed, 27, this season to defend against the opponent's top receiver much of the time, and none had big games against him.

Jones and Sneed are key players for an improved Chiefs defense that allowed fewer points than all but one other team during the regular season and held the Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills and Baltimore Ravens to 41 total points in the playoffs.

The Chiefs had defenses that were at times competitive since Patrick Mahomes became their starting quarterback in 2018, but rarely were they consistently so. Veach and the Chiefs found the task of building a top defense difficult because the past few seasons they were carrying Mahomes' massive contract.

"I still remember in '17 and '18 just saying if we can just get them to punt just once we've got a shot,'' Veach said. "Now all of a sudden it's like all we've got to do is just score once and we're good.

"Going from where we were in '17 and '18 to having one of the best defenses, knowing the constraints we had of just paying [Mahomes] and probably drafting later [in rounds], I don't think I ever envisioned having a top one or two defense.''
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Old 02-17-2024, 07:54 PM   #811
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Need an offensive signing or two like tranquil and edwards

Otherwise….it’s the draft. Just gotta keep hitting
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Old 02-17-2024, 08:42 PM   #812
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Sounds like Omenihu is hoping for an early extension. I’d sign up for that

7 sacks in 11 games.

Plus 2 more in less than 2 1/2 playoff games.

Needs to extend though '25, hopefully put in a full season and get paid somewhere.
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He ain’t gonna sign an extension off an acl and neither are chiefs
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Sneed is the must.
maybe. If you sign Sneed. You can forget about signing McDuffie. No way Veach is paying top market for 2 corners.
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Yup.

The tag was never designed to be used on guys looking for a 3rd deal; that 25% kicker makes it prohibitive and of little value to the team. There's next to no surplus to be created by dropping a $30+ million tag on Jones - it would be akin to hostage taking and little else.

It's designed for the exactly the situation the Chiefs face with Sneed. No real risk he holds out. Plenty surplus value created and a fair bit of leverage even in trying to work on a long-term deal.

It just doesn't make any sense at all to tag Jones. It makes ALL the sense in the world to tag Sneed.
Sneed's age works against him in this situation, and in KC's favor. He's 27 exiting his first contract, and if he just plays on the tag, he's now trying to negotiate a big payday at 28 (when most top guys are after their 3rd contract). And that's assuming he has another great/healthy season. It should be in his best interest to negotiate in good faith, but take a 3-4 year deal with KC, even if it's a little lower ACV than he could get on the open market.
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maybe. If you sign Sneed. You can forget about signing McDuffie. No way Veach is paying top market for 2 corners.
McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.
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Sneed's money years can easily be staggered to avoid Mcduffie's.
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McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.
Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.
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Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.
Why are you tagging Sneed twice? That's not going to happen.
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McDuffie has 3 more years on his rookie deal, the two are completely independent of each other. Unless something drastically changes with his play, KC is going to pay McDuffie regardless what happens with Sneed.
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No team that I can remember, paid full price for 2 all pro corners on the same team in the salary cap era for a reason. Okay you haven’t shut down corners and you are paying full freight for them. You have the highest paid QB in the league. You don’t think the team will have to sacrifice talent in other parts of the team?
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Do the math. Tag Sneed. Both play this year. 1 more year you can tag Sneed. That’s 2025. McDuffie has one year left.

You are paying at least 4 years of the contract. You can’t pay both. One must walk or be traded.

Who is advocating tagging sneed twice? If we sign him to a 4 year extension he will be in the last year of his deal on the first of mcduffies extension (first year always the cheapest)

The math almost works out perfectly to roster both for the next 4-5 years.


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Cut omenihu and use that money for Chris ?
That’s the way I read it. We save over 7M. We simply can’t afford to have our 6th most expensive player miss the whole year. Or 90% of it. Of course it’s harsh but championships are razor thin margin. .

Either way you can basically take it to the bank that we told him he’s probably out or the restructure just pushes back his current cap hit back a year
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No team that I can remember, paid full price for 2 all pro corners on the same team in the salary cap era for a reason. Okay you haven’t shut down corners and you are paying full freight for them. You have the highest paid QB in the league. You don’t think the team will have to sacrifice talent in other parts of the team?
Don’t tag him at all and stagger the contracts. It’s that simple. Definitely don’t tag him twice.
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Don’t tag him at all and stagger the contracts. It’s that simple. Definitely don’t tag him twice.
you’ll have over $100 million of our cap committed to 2 CB’s and the QB.
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you’ll have over $100 million of our cap committed to 2 CB’s and the QB.

WHERE THE **** IS THIS THOUGHT COMING FROM?

THEY ARENT BOTH GETTING HUGE MONEY IN THE SAME YEARS.

WE ARE 3 YEARS AWAY FROM A MCDUFFIE EXTENSION


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