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Old 07-31-2019, 11:45 AM  
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Tremon Smith number and position change (RB)

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Chiefs make an interesting roster decision, move speedy cornerback to running back
By Jordan Dajani

Chiefs make an interesting roster decision, move speedy cornerback to running back
By Jordan Dajani 1h ago • 1 min read

The Kansas City Chiefs are making an interesting position change during training camp, as they are moving one of their speedy cornerbacks to running back.

On Wednesday, cornerback Tremon Smith was seen walking to practice sporting the No. 20, as opposed to his usual No. 39. Reports then surfaced that he had been moved to running back.

Smith was drafted by the Chiefs in the sixth round of the 2018 NFL Draft. The Central Arkansas product served as a kick returner during his rookie season, registering 33 returns for 886 yards. On the defensive side of the ball, he made five combined tackles and one pass defensed.

He's known for his speed, and ran a 4.3 40-yard dash time in college. The rookie had a special moment in Week 6 last year, when he returned a kick 97 yards against the New England Patriots and was taken down just a few short yards from the end zone. Smith clearly knows what to do with the ball in open space, and the Chiefs want to give him the chance to prove he can add something to the offense.

While the Chiefs cut ties with Kareem Hunt, they still have several viable options at running back. Damien Williams and Darrel Williams stepped up at the end of the season when Spencer Ware went down with a shoulder injury, and the team also added Carlos Hyde in March. Additionally, the Chiefs are working out undrafted rookies Marcus Marshall and Josh Caldwell, and sixth-round pick Darwin Thompson is also in the mix.

Establishing himself on the Chiefs' depth chart is a tall task for Smith if the team is serious about this switch to running back, but he has proven that he's a weapon with the ball in his hands.

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Reid also plans to have Smith continue to be the Chiefs’ primary kickoff returner, a role he excelled in last season, averaging 26.8 yards per attempt, the fourth-best average in the NFL.

In explaining his willingness to change positions, Smith said he first approached Reid about the possibility of playing snaps on offense early last season. Reid learned that Smith had been a first-team All-State quarterback at Saks High in Anniston, Ala., after the Chiefs selected him in the sixth round of last year’s NFL Draft. At Saks, Smith scored the most touchdowns in the school’s history.

“He went back and watched my senior year of high school,” Smith said of Reid. “You know Coach Reid, he’s a guru. Being in Coach Reid’s system, he’s going to find mismatches and find a way to get you open.”
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Toub, who is also the Chiefs’ assistant head coach, mentioned to Reid a few weeks later that Smith possessed the skills to perhaps be another playmaker for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

The first test for Smith, however, was in early December when the Chiefs prepared to play the Baltimore Ravens. Reid asked Smith to watch film of the Ravens in order to mimic how quarterback Lamar Jackson operated the read-option offense in practice for the scout team. Smith did the task well enough that Reid praised him during the opening statement of his news conference the day following the Chiefs’ comeback victory.

Smith said Reid then began creating a package of plays. Smith spent time in practice as the quarterback in wildcat formations.

And then..

When the Chiefs’ veterans reported to camp Friday, Reid welcomed Smith with an intriguing message: “Hope you’ve been working on the offensive side,” Reid said.

“Of course, Coach,” Smith responded. “Always.”

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Old 07-31-2019, 06:35 PM   #61
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I'm just gonna go ahead and make the claim that Reid knows what he's doing by keeping a FB on the roster for the past 6 seasons (soon to be 7)
As contemporary as Reid's version of the WC offense can be, there is one element of the old school version where he will never depart from and that is always having a "fattie FB" available when needed in his eyes.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:38 PM   #62
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He was one of the top returners in the NFL last season...that has value and he's cheap.

I think they are trying to get what they can out of him since he inst panning out at CB.

He'll be picked up immediately if he's cut....I'd keep him.

Has there ever been an entire offensive set of 4.3 guys...Watkins, Hill, Hardman, Smith?

How much of T. Smith being a top returner is from Dave Toub? Toub always has a top ST unit.
He is not panning out at CB. We will not carry 5 RBs into the season.
Maybe we can use him in a trade. If not cut him and move on.
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I'd rather cut Darrell Williams


also maybe see Smith play one down
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also maybe see Smith play one down
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Chiefs are just making sure they see TS at the RB position to make sure they are not just flippantly cutting someone with elite speed too soon. Who knows maybe this was totally Smith's idea because maybe the FO had a very frank conversation with him and he begged to try RB.
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Chiefs are just making sure they see TS at the RB position to make sure they are not just flippantly cutting someone with elite speed too soon. Who knows maybe this was totally Smith's idea because maybe the FO had a very frank conversation with him and he begged to try RB.
Andy Reid talked about this last year in TC and it never happened. I do agree that making this move is a final shot to remain on the roster, although it is not flippantly at all.
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He was one of the top returners in the NFL last season...that has value and he's cheap.

I think they are trying to get what they can out of him since he inst panning out at CB.

He'll be picked up immediately if he's cut....I'd keep him.

Has there ever been an entire offensive set of 4.3 guys...Watkins, Hill, Hardman, Smith?
Exactly. They’re not going to just cut a guy that was objectively a top 5 returner last year.
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We are packed full at RB. How is this going to help keep him?

Who are we going to cut Damien Williams, Carlos Hyde, Darrel Williams, Anthony Sherman?

I suppose Andy Reid is just desperate to have a gadget guy again since DAT is gone. Have Tremon Smith since around on the bench waiting to play WR,RB,KR for Andy Reid's OCD offensive mind?
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I'm not going to copy the entire article, but this is from Nate Taylor at The Athletic...

Reid also plans to have Smith continue to be the Chiefs’ primary kickoff returner, a role he excelled in last season, averaging 26.8 yards per attempt, the fourth-best average in the NFL.

In explaining his willingness to change positions, Smith said he first approached Reid about the possibility of playing snaps on offense early last season. Reid learned that Smith had been a first-team All-State quarterback at Saks High in Anniston, Ala., after the Chiefs selected him in the sixth round of last year’s NFL Draft. At Saks, Smith scored the most touchdowns in the school’s history.

“He went back and watched my senior year of high school,” Smith said of Reid. “You know Coach Reid, he’s a guru. Being in Coach Reid’s system, he’s going to find mismatches and find a way to get you open.”
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Reid also plans to have Smith continue to be the Chiefs’ primary kickoff returner, a role he excelled in last season, averaging 26.8 yards per attempt, the fourth-best average in the NFL.

In explaining his willingness to change positions, Smith said he first approached Reid about the possibility of playing snaps on offense early last season. Reid learned that Smith had been a first-team All-State quarterback at Saks High in Anniston, Ala., after the Chiefs selected him in the sixth round of last year’s NFL Draft. At Saks, Smith scored the most touchdowns in the school’s history.

He went back and watched my senior year of high school,” Smith said of Reid. “You know Coach Reid, he’s a guru. Being in Coach Reid’s system, he’s going to find mismatches and find a way to get you open.”
That's pretty damn cool

How many coaches would go back and look at a player's high school tape to find a better spot for him?

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Toub, who is also the Chiefs’ assistant head coach, mentioned to Reid a few weeks later that Smith possessed the skills to perhaps be another playmaker for quarterback Patrick Mahomes.

The first test for Smith, however, was in early December when the Chiefs prepared to play the Baltimore Ravens. Reid asked Smith to watch film of the Ravens in order to mimic how quarterback Lamar Jackson operated the read-option offense in practice for the scout team. Smith did the task well enough that Reid praised him during the opening statement of his news conference the day following the Chiefs’ comeback victory.

Smith said Reid then began creating a package of plays. Smith spent time in practice as the quarterback in wildcat formations.

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When the Chiefs’ veterans reported to camp Friday, Reid welcomed Smith with an intriguing message: “Hope you’ve been working on the offensive side,” Reid said.

“Of course, Coach,” Smith responded. “Always.”
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I do, now, vaguely remember that being mentioned last year- That he was playing QB in practice to mimic Lamar. I didn't really put any thought into it at the time. I guess it wasn't an isolated incident, and Reid thinks he might have his gadget guy in Tremon.
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Doesn’t sound as desperate as some made it seem. I’m not convinced he makes the team, but the move doesn’t sound like a bad thing at all.
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