Justin Houston’s last year in KC?

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Dude..

Dee Ford is a 1 dimensional player that gets hurt all the time, why the **** would you want to tag him?

To see if he can stay healthy. He's still our best pass rusher so far. If he can approach double digit sacks in 2018 and 2019 I'd offer him a long term contract.

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

To see if he can stay healthy. He's still our best pass rusher so far. If he can approach double digit sacks in 2018 and 2019 I'd offer him a long term contract.

I get that, but then you're open to him being a virtual "no-show" for the duration of the contract. Long term deals are a risk with any player, but he more than most, because that's his history. I sure would not be willing to take that chance, but that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Dude..

Dee Ford is a 1 dimensional player that gets hurt all the time, why the **** would you want to tag him?

Exactly. NO WAY I'd want THAT guy to be tying up significant cap $$$ that could be used elsewhere for improvements.

[Mecca]

If you do cut Houston and let Ford go, or really just let Ford go this team is probably going to be in the market for a pass rusher who may come on the cheap..

Dante Fowler and Shane Ray are probably going to be options for this team in FA...

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Mecca

If you do cut Houston and let Ford go, or really just let Ford go this team is probably going to be in the market for a pass rusher who may come on the cheap..

Dante Fowler and Shane Ray are probably going to be options for this team in FA...

I'm all for signing Fowler no matter what. He's a solid situational pass rusher and he's still only 24.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Here’s the info on Houston’s contract./[/url]

[PAChiefsGuy]

Lol @ the people still defending Houston. It's obvious he's either lost motivation or offensive lineman have figured out how to block him. And stop with the Von Miller comparisons. Miller currently leads the NFL in sacks with 4 and last year he was doubled more than anyone.

J Houston is nothing but a good run defender and okay pass rusher now. Unless his play dramatically improves the rest of the season (which it more than likely won't) he needs to go.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol @ the people still defending Houston. It's obvious he's either lost motivation or offensive lineman have figured out how to block him. And stop with the Von Miller comparisons. Miller currently leads the NFL in sacks with 4 and last year he was doubled more than anyone.

J Houston is nothing but a good run defender and okay pass rusher now. Unless his play dramatically improves the rest of the season (which it more than likely won't) he needs to go.

If this team roles with Speaks and Kpass you'll pine to have him back because those guys are way worse...

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol @ the people still defending Houston. It's obvious he's either lost motivation or offensive lineman have figured out how to block him. And stop with the Von Miller comparisons. Miller currently leads the NFL in sacks with 4 and last year he was doubled more than anyone.

J Houston is nothing but a good run defender and okay pass rusher now. Unless his play dramatically improves the rest of the season (which it more than likely won't) he needs to go.

The sack totals were similar. Houston gets doubled and chipped a shit ton too. Justin Houston got hog-tied by the Steelers while Miller played the Seahags. Let's see how it all plays out. We're 2 games into the season for ****s sake.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Lol @ the people still defending Houston. It's obvious he's either lost motivation or offensive lineman have figured out how to block him. And stop with the Von Miller comparisons. Miller currently leads the NFL in sacks with 4 and last year he was doubled more than anyone.

J Houston is nothing but a good run defender and okay pass rusher now. Unless his play dramatically improves the rest of the season (which it more than likely won't) he needs to go.

He's an exceptional run and pass defender. I don't for a second question his heart. He's not the elite pass rusher he once was. But he's still good at it. I think his lower production has a lot more to do with Sutton not finding creative ways enough to create pressure. Seems like we have fewer rushers asked to do more.

[OKchiefs]

I think we can convince Shane Ray to come here on a reasonable contract, seeing as he's from here and has a Chiefs tattoo.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I think we can convince Shane Ray to come here on a reasonable contract, seeing as he's from here and has a Chiefs tattoo.

That is a possible option but lets be real, that is a reclamation project that you are hoping to turn into production for cheap it's not like he's been good so far.

He's basically Dee Ford, he's a broke dick without a ton of production but you probably get him cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That is a possible option but lets be real, that is a reclamation project that you are hoping to turn into production for cheap it's not like he's been good so far.

He's basically Dee Ford, he's a broke dick without a ton of production but you probably get him cheaper.

In other words a "Veach-Type of Player."

[Prison Bitch]

More local yokels demanding anothe Mizzou trash signing. As if we have learned the lesson 80 times already

Ray by analytics ratings is virtually worthless. He wouldn't even be a poor mans Ford

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

More local yokels demanding anothe Mizzou trash signing. As if we have learned the lesson 80 times already

Ray by analytics ratings is virtually worthless. He wouldn't even be a poor mans Ford

He'll get signed for virtually nothing, teams take former first round picks and see if they can make something of them all the time...matter of fact we have 2 of those guys starting on this ****ing team...that's right up Veach's alley.