First Round Targets - Page 5

Couch-Potato · 02-20-2023, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

If they can fill some holes in FA, I think it's a very real possibility.

Honestly, if the Chiefs can come into the draft with the plan of taking the best WR or TE available, that would probably be ideal.

If it's a weapon we want, I hope we trade up to get the one we want instead of waiting to see what falls to us at #31.

staylor26 · 02-20-2023, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

If it's a weapon we want, I hope we trade up to get the one we want instead of waiting to see what falls to us at #31.

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I don't even think that's going to be necessary.

Addison, Smith-Njigba, Johnston, Hyatt, Mayer, Kincaid, Musgrave

Somebody has to fall.

JPH83 · 02-21-2023, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I don't even think that's going to be necessary.

Addison, Smith-Njigba, Johnston, Hyatt, Mayer, Kincaid, Musgrave

Somebody has to fall.

I'd almost never want a TE over a WR in the 1st, but this year might be the exception. Sometimes you've got to take what the draft is giving you and TE looks stronger.

Musgrave is a guy I was high on early, but back then he was barely flirting with a R3 evaluation. He's an unreal athlete but Ive cooled on him for one reason, he NEVER seems to play through contact. For a guy that big and quick he goes down way too easily.

RunKC · 02-20-2023, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

a amHonestly, if the Chiefs can come into the draft with the plan of taking the best pass rusher or RT available, that would probably be ideal.

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Dull Tools · 02-21-2023, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

If they can fill some holes in FA, I think it's a very real possibility.

Honestly, if the Chiefs can come into the draft with the plan of taking the best WR or TE available, that would probably be ideal.

I kind of agree on TE and have mentioned it before on this thread.

Issue with TE the value for a rookie TE isn't that valuable when compared to a FA TE so it is less worthwhile compared to a WR, OL and DE.

In terms of a position to target in off season then I think it makes sense although the 3rd season is massive for TEs so Noah Gray could be in for a breakout year in terms of production.

I would love to see Mahomes throw to Darnel Washington though.

RunKC · 02-21-2023, 10:51 AM

What about the OU tackle? He seems to be a good fit for us

Direckshun · 02-21-2023, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

What about the OU tackle? He seems to be a good fit for us

You'll have to be more specific, because OU actually has two tackles in this year's class.

RunKC · 02-21-2023, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

You'll have to be more specific, because OU actually has two tackles in this year's class.

Anton Harrison

kccrow · 02-21-2023, 11:02 AM

This draft is SO DEEP at TE that I'd be unquestionably pissed if they took one in the 1st. Not only do we have Kelce starting for the next couple years yet, but you can get similar talent in the 3rd or 4th round.

JPH83 · 02-21-2023, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

This draft is SO DEEP at TE that I'd be unquestionably pissed if they took one in the 1st. Not only do we have Kelce starting for the next couple years yet, but you can get similar talent in the 3rd or 4th round.

Any thoughts on who might be available from the back end of the 2nd? You were considering Durham later in right?

I kinda get the point re depth meaning you might as well wait until later, makes sense to me. I think the opposite argument is my issue with going with WR early, it's so thin that the depth in guaranteed quality doesn't extend to the end of the 1st, so why force it?

kccrow · 02-21-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83

Any thoughts on who might be available from the back end of the 2nd? You were considering Durham later in right?

I kinda get the point re depth meaning you might as well wait until later, makes sense to me. I think the opposite argument is my issue with going with WR early, it's so thin that the depth in guaranteed quality doesn't extend to the end of the 1st, so why force it?

I dunno about 2nd round. I've seen guys like LaPorta, Schoonmaker, Kraft, Washington, and Kincaid all rated there.... meh. I don't think you take a TE in the 2nd round this year.

I really like Durham, Whyle, Latu, and Mallory as 3rd/4th guys. I really think those are some quality TEs and you're not throwing a premium at them.

raybec 4 · 02-21-2023, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I dunno about 2nd round. I've seen guys like LaPorta, Schoonmaker, Kraft, Washington, and Kincaid all rated there.... meh. I don't think you take a TE in the 2nd round this year.

I really like Durham, Whyle, Latu, and Mallory as 3rd/4th guys. I really think those are some quality TEs and you're not throwing a premium at them.

I think Schoonmaker is going to end up being a solid receiving tight end. He has a lot of tools.

kozzman555 · 02-21-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4

I think Schoonmaker is going to end up being a solid receiving tight end. He has a lot of tools.

That could be, but I don't see Burt Verch drafting him. I just went through everyone single draft class he's had with us as GM and there were 6 players that were either 23 or nearly 23 when drafted. I just eyeballed their age and the draft year, I did not dig deep down in to their exact birthday and calculate it. Zero players were 24 and Schoonmaker is already 24. The vast majority of his picks were 21/22 years old when drafted, which makes sense because you graduate HS at 18, then have 3-4yrs of college. I don't see him picking up many RS SR players but I get why. After their rookie deal, they will be getting close to 30, so the return on that draft pick investment is going to be a little lower.

Mecca · 02-21-2023, 02:12 PM

This guy isn't a 1st rounder but go watch some video on LB Daiyan Henley probably a 3-4 but that dude has major upside...

JPH83 · 02-21-2023, 02:22 PM

I don't get the depth at WR argument. The top 5 is weak compared to previous years and thereafter there's a load of "who knows" but again I don't see more than in previous years. There will be great value picks all the way, there always is, but it doesn't stand out to me as a good year.

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JPH83 Veteran Join Date: Feb 2021 Casino cash: $2160400	I don't get the depth at WR argument. The top 5 is weak compared to previous years and thereafter there's a load of "who knows" but again I don't see more than in previous years. There will be great value picks all the way, there always is, but it doesn't stand out to me as a good year.
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