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saphojunkie · 11:44 AM

**** the Final Four. Championship or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

ROSTER:

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BYE BYE

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FULL SCHEDULE:

https://kuathletics.com/documents/20...9_schedule.pdf

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PHILLIPS 66 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP

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NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP:

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More updates to come.

Let's go get Championship number 4 (6)!

Prison Bitch · 11-24-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I expect Self will play 4 out if they have to do that to win games, but we're not at that point yet.
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Almost every coach would play 3-2 if they had the players. Too tough to rebound 4-1. Rebounding is the one thing in hoops you can't do too much of.

Besides, we don't have a 4th wing. You'd be taking out one of our 2 best players for....Marcus Garrett? No thanks.

**Baby Lee** · 11-24-2018, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Tennesse is the #5 team in the country? They were a good team but didn't seem to have the talent to hang with the blue bloods. Dont know anything about them previously, maybe their guys had a bad shooting night? They looked like shit most of the 2nd half, kind of like we did for a lot of the 1st half.

We are not playing as a team as of yet. We are just getting by on raw talent. Self gets the natural talent up to speed and playing as a team, as he usually does every year, we can get back to the Final Four.

They really did implode at the end. All through the first 35 minutes or so, my dad and I were remarking on what's different about KU this year and what was different about TN to keep them in the lead.

On the KU side, obviously Azibuke had a snakebit night. He had his own mistakes, but also dealt with some subpar low post entrance passes, and got foul calls for crossing his eyes or sneezing. But the more pernicious problem is no overpowering PG presence like we enjoyed for so long. from Graham to Vaughn. Analogizing to a symphony, we have great musicians, but no premiere conductor right now.

On the TN side, they just didn't let KU's offensive production or defensive pressure faze them. KU never got to go HAM on them. Never got one of the patented stretches where the defensive pressure was on full blast, AND the fast break followed up immediately.

They'd make a couple great scores, and TN would just shrug and get the point advantage back. Then right when Williams was getting hot, he bumped knees with Azibuke, then got his own foul trouble eventually fouling out himself. That seemed to be when TN lost their mojo all around, particularly on the offensive end. This, and Vick getting hot for a minute was the difference in the game.

Pants · 11-24-2018, 10:23 AM

I thought Dotson played out of his mind last night. It's almost blasphemous and sounds crazy when I say it, but I think he's going to be even more dominant than Mason or Graham by the time he's a junior.

Tennessee is ranked #5 for a reason. They are all super talented upperclassmen and are probably going to win the SEC again.

C3HIEF3S · 11-24-2018, 10:35 AM

It is a joke that Udoka is now a junior and can’t be counted on to play 20 minutes without fouling out. He’s dominant, but shouldn’t be this raw at this point in his career. How many travels has he been called for already this year? I’m sure he’ll get ironed out come conference play, but he’s been a roller coaster.

Pants · 11-24-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

It is a joke that Udoka is now a junior and can’t be counted on to play 20 minutes without fouling out. He’s dominant, but shouldn’t be this raw at this point in his career. How many travels has he been called for already this year? I’m sure he’ll get ironed out come conference play, but he’s been a roller coaster.

He pushes off almost every time there's an entry pass to him. It's painful to watch because he makes it so obvious. We are lucky he doesn't get called for it every time.

lawrenceRaider · 11-24-2018, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

It is a joke that Udoka is now a junior and can’t be counted on to play 20 minutes without fouling out. He’s dominant, but shouldn’t be this raw at this point in his career. How many travels has he been called for already this year? I’m sure he’ll get ironed out come conference play, but he’s been a roller coaster.

Doke had two silly fouls, and two very questionable fouls called against him. One of those fouls was totally bogus, not even any contact. He fouled out on minimal contact where the UT player threw himself to the ground.

Imon Yourside · 11-24-2018, 11:09 AM

This team has the usual achilles, our outside shooting is absolutely abysmal. Once Vick gets to his usual season ending cold streak it's going to be teams sagging into the paint and waiting for the rebounds. I see many 3-21 3 point shooting nights in our future this year.

CoMoChief · 11-24-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

They really did implode at the end. All through the first 35 minutes or so, my dad and I were remarking on what's different about KU this year and what was different about TN to keep them in the lead.

On the KU side, obviously Azibuke had a snakebit night. He had his own mistakes, but also dealt with some subpar low post entrance passes, and got foul calls for crossing his eyes or sneezing. But the more pernicious problem is no overpowering PG presence like we enjoyed for so long. from Graham to Vaughn. Analogizing to a symphony, we have great musicians, but no premiere conductor right now.

On the TN side, they just didn't let KU's offensive production or defensive pressure faze them. KU never got to go HAM on them. Never got one of the patented stretches where the defensive pressure was on full blast, AND the fast break followed up immediately.

They'd make a couple great scores, and TN would just shrug and get the point advantage back. Then right when Williams was getting hot, he bumped knees with Azibuke, then got his own foul trouble eventually fouling out himself. That seemed to be when TN lost their mojo all around, particularly on the offensive end. This, and Vick getting hot for a minute was the difference in the game.

Maybe because Tennessee is a good team, ever thought of that?

**Baby Lee** · 11-24-2018, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Maybe because Tennessee is a good team, ever thought of that?

You ever thought of paying attention? BRC was questioning what about TN made them a #5 team. I was responding to him.

KC_Connection · 11-24-2018, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

It is a joke that Udoka is now a junior and can’t be counted on to play 20 minutes without fouling out. He’s dominant, but shouldn’t be this raw at this point in his career. How many travels has he been called for already this year? I’m sure he’ll get ironed out come conference play, but he’s been a roller coaster.

He's just not that good of a basketball player. Lacks in a lot of areas, particularly his basketball IQ. It's too bad because he has the body/size to be really dominant, but he has no idea how to really use that size.

Continuously feeding him yesterday proved to be an awful strategy.

KC_Connection · 11-24-2018, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

This team has the usual achilles, our outside shooting is absolutely abysmal. Once Vick gets to his usual season ending cold streak it's going to be teams sagging into the paint and waiting for the rebounds. I see many 3-21 3 point shooting nights in our future this year.

This team doesn't even shoot threes, it's probably the most distinctive part of this year's team. They are 335th of 353 teams in the country at 3PA%. We're playing a very archaic style of basketball currently. Granted, it's not so far out of line from what Self teams used to be (prior to 2017/2018 seasons) but the NCAA is evolving just as the NBA is and it doesn't seem we're evolving with it.

Chief Pagan · 11-24-2018, 03:15 PM

Even when Doke isn't scoring great, feeding him can help get the other team in foul trouble.

Self put him back in with 4 fouls with something like 10 minutes left.

At first I was puzzled but maybe Self wasn't planning on playing him the last few minutes anyway because of free throw shooting. So fouling out is no biggie.

BWillie · 11-24-2018, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

This team doesn't even shoot threes, it's probably the most distinctive part of this year's team. They are 335th of 353 teams in the country at 3PA%. We're playing a very archaic style of basketball currently. Granted, it's not so far out of line from what Self teams used to be (prior to 2017/2018 seasons) but the NCAA is evolving just as the NBA is and it doesn't seem we're evolving with it.

I think its the correct way to play with THIS team. Self is actively going after shooters. Braun and McBride are legit shooters.

smithandrew051 · 11-24-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I think its the correct way to play with THIS team. Self is actively going after shooters. Braun and McBride are legit shooters.

I think this team will have a lot of streaky shooters. Hopefully at least one is on each night.

We’ve already seen Grimes and Vick go off from 3 in a game. I think you’ll see a big game from 3 for Dedric and Moore before long.

Garrett needs to never shoot 3’s unless it’s the end of the shot clock or desperation time.

Imon Yourside · 11-24-2018, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

This team doesn't even shoot threes, it's probably the most distinctive part of this year's team. They are 335th of 353 teams in the country at 3PA%. We're playing a very archaic style of basketball currently. Granted, it's not so far out of line from what Self teams used to be (prior to 2017/2018 seasons) but the NCAA is evolving just as the NBA is and it doesn't seem we're evolving with it.

This will be our usual downfall then, script has been written and putting a lid on the goal and putting the team in pads for some shock therapy basketball won't change a thing. Reminds me of Martyball when he would say it doesn't matter if the other team knows what you're going to do if you execute well enough you can win every time.

04-04-2018, 12:37 PM
saphojunkie MVP Join Date: Aug 2011 Casino cash: $4546550	*** Official 2018-2019 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread * the Final Four. Championship or bust, baby. Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit ROSTER: Spoiler! RETURNING PLAYERS G Legerald Vick - Sr G Marcus Garrett - Soph F Udoka Azubuike - Jr. F Mitch Lightfoot - Jr. F Silvio De Sousa - Soph. NOW ELIGIBLE TO PLAY: G Charlie Moore - RS Soph. F KJ Lawson - RS Jr. 2017 AAC Newcomer of the Year F Dedric Lawson - RS Jr. INCOMING PLAYERS: SG Quentin Grimes 6'4" - 204 LB Five star, ESPN 8th best player PG Devon Dotson 6'2" - 175lb 5 star, ESPN 24th best player C DAVID MCCORMACK 6'10" - 255 lb 4 star - ESPN 28th best player SG OCHAI AGBAJI 6'4" - 200 LBS 3 STAR RIVALS, NO ESPN RANKING HERE IS THE GROUP AS A WHOLE: BYE BYE Spoiler! Devonte Graham - Get a clean jersey for hanging Sviatoslav Mikhailiuk - off to the great corner three in the sky Malik Newman - Don't forget your 80 pound balls, and thanks for the banner Sam Cunliffe - dat sister ass tho Honorable mention: Clay Young - you actually got minutes this year? WTF FULL SCHEDULE: https://kuathletics.com/documents/20...9_schedule.pdf Spoiler! LATE NIGHT IN THE PHOG Sept. 28 Friday Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 6:30 p.m. Oct. 25 Thursday EMPORIA STATE (Exh.) Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 7 p.m. Nov. 1 Thursday WASHBURN (Exh.) Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 7 p.m. State Farm Champions Classic Nov. 6 Tuesday vs. Michigan State - W 92-87 Indianapolis, Ind. (Bankers Life Fieldhouse) NIT Season Tip-Off Nov. 12 Monday VERMONT Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) TBD TBD Nov. 16 Friday LOUISIANA (Lafayette) Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 7 p.m. Nov. 21 Wednesday Marquette Brooklyn, N.Y. (Barclays Center) ESPN2 6 p.m. Nov. 23 Friday Louisville/Tennessee Brooklyn, N.Y. (Barclays Center) ESPN2 6/8 p.m. Dec. 1 Saturday STANFORD Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) TBD TBD Dec. 4 Tuesday WOFFORD Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 7 p.m. Jayhawk Shootout Dec. 8 Saturday NEW MEXICO STATE Kansas City, Mo. (Sprint Center) TBD TBD Dec. 15 Saturday VILLANOVA Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) TBD TBD Dec. 18 Tuesday SOUTH DAKOTA Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 7 p.m. Dec. 22 Saturday at Arizona State Tempe, Ariz. (Wells Fargo Arena) TBD TBD Dec. 29 Saturday EASTERN MICHIGAN Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) Jayhawk TV/ESPN+ 1 p.m. CONFERENCE SCHEDULE** Jan. 2 Wednesday OKLAHOMA* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN2/ESPNU 8 p.m. Jan. 5 Saturday at Iowa State* Ames, Iowa (Hilton Coliseum) ESPN2 4 p.m. Jan. 9 Wednesday TCU* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN2/ESPNU 8 p.m. Jan. 12 Saturday at Baylor* Waco, Texas (Ferrell Center) ESPN/ESPN2 3 p.m. Jan. 14 Monday TEXAS* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPNU 8 p.m. Jan. 19 Saturday at West Virginia* Morgantown, W.Va. (WVU Coliseum) ESPN/ESPN2 1/3/5 p.m. Jan. 21 Monday IOWA STATE* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPNU 8 p.m. Jan. 26 Saturday at Kentucky Lexington, Ky. (Rupp Arena) ESPN family TBD Jan. 29 Tuesday at Texas* Austin, Texas (Erwin Center) ESPN/ESPN2 6 p.m. Feb. 2 Saturday TEXAS TECH* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) CBS 3 p.m. Feb. 5 Tuesday at Kansas State* Manhattan, Kan. (Bramlage Coliseum) ESPN/ESPN2 8 p.m. Feb. 9 Saturday OKLAHOMA STATE* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPN2 11 a.m. Feb. 11 Monday at TCU* Fort Worth, Texas (Ed & Rae Schollmaier Arena) ESPN/ESPN2 8 p.m. Feb. 16 Saturday WEST VIRGINIA* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPN2 3/5/7 p.m. Feb. 23 Saturday at Texas Tech* Lubbock, Texas (United Supermarkets Arena) ESPN/ESPN2 5/7 p.m. Feb. 25 Monday KANSAS STATE* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPN2/ESPNU 6/8 p.m. March 2 Saturday at Oklahoma State* Stillwater, Okla. (Gallagher-Iba Arena) CBS 11 a.m. March 5 Tuesday at Oklahoma* Norman, Okla. (Lloyd Noble Center) ESPN/ESPN2 8 p.m. March 9 Saturday BAYLOR* Lawrence, Kan. (Allen Fieldhouse) ESPN/ESPN2 11 a.m. PHILLIPS 66 BIG 12 CHAMPIONSHIP Spoiler! BIG 12 FIRST ROUND MAR 13 (WED) TBA VS TBA KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER BIG 12 QUARTERFINAL MAR 14 (THU) TBA VS TBA KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER BIG 12 SEMIFINAL MAR 15 (FRI) TBA VS TBA KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER BIG 12 FINAL MAR 16 (SAT) TBA VS TBA KANSAS CITY, MO. SPRINT CENTER NCAA MEN'S BASKETBALL CHAMPIONSHIP: Spoiler! FIRST ROUND MAR 21 (THU) MAR 22 (FRI) CBS / TURNER VS TBA CAA HARTFORD, CONN. / SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH / DES MOINES, IOWA / JACKSONVILLE, FLA. / TULSA, OKLA. / COLUMBUS, OHIO / COLUMBIA, S.C. / SEATTLE, WASH. NCAA SECOND ROUND MAR 23 (SAT) MAR 24 (SUN) CBS / TURNER VS TBA HARTFORD, CONN. / SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH / DES MOINES, IOWA / JACKSONVILLE, FLA. / TULSA, OKLA. / COLUMBUS, OHIO / COLUMBIA, S.C. / SEATTLE, WASH. NCAA SWEET SIXTEEN MAR 28 (THU) MAR 29 (FRI) CBS / TURNER VS TBA LOUISVILLE, KY. / ANAHEIM, CALIF. / WASHINGTON, D.C. / KANSAS CITY, MO. NCAA ELITE EIGHT MAR 30 (SAT) MAR 31 (SUN) CBS / TURNER VS TBA LOUISVILLE, KY. / ANAHEIM, CALIF. / WASHINGTON, D.C. / KANSAS CITY, MO. NCAA FINAL FOUR APR 6 (SAT) TBA CBS VS TBA MINNEAPOLIS, MINN. NCAA FINAL APR 8 (MON) TBA CBS VS TBA MINNEAPOLIS, MINN. More updates to come. Let's go get Championship number 4 (6)! Last edited by saphojunkie; 11-08-2018 at 11:44 AM..
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C3HIEF3S Let's Get Weird Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Austin Casino cash: $9990098	It is a joke that Udoka is now a junior and can’t be counted on to play 20 minutes without fouling out. He’s dominant, but shouldn’t be this raw at this point in his career. How many travels has he been called for already this year? I’m sure he’ll get ironed out come conference play, but he’s been a roller coaster.
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Imon Yourside WhatUneed2Hear Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: AllSoulsMatter Casino cash: $2413181	This team has the usual achilles, our outside shooting is absolutely abysmal. Once Vick gets to his usual season ending cold streak it's going to be teams sagging into the paint and waiting for the rebounds. I see many 3-21 3 point shooting nights in our future this year. __________________ "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" Peter 5:8 "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay" Isaiah 29:16 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me." Revelation 3:20
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11-24-2018, 03:15 PM	#597
Chief Pagan Sometimes it's black and white Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Casino cash: $3534900	Even when Doke isn't scoring great, feeding him can help get the other team in foul trouble. Self put him back in with 4 fouls with something like 10 minutes left. At first I was puzzled but maybe Self wasn't planning on playing him the last few minutes anyway because of free throw shooting. So fouling out is no biggie.
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