FA DEs

[Direckshun]

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2023DE.php

1. Marcus Davenport, DE, Saints. Age: 26.
Marcus Davenport logged nine sacks in 2021, but had just half of a sack this past year. Davenport played much better than that number indicates, however.

2. Zach Allen, DE/DT, Cardinals. Age: 26.
Zach Allen had always been a decent player, but he made a big leap in 2022. He was terrific, so he may get a big contract.

3. Brandon Graham, DE, Eagles. Age: 35.
Brandon Graham played just two games in 2021. He was sorely missed, yet he was able to return to the field this past year and dominate. The downside is that he's turning 35 this offseason, so there could be regression coming soon.

4. Yannick Ngakoue, DE, Colts. Age: 28.
Yannick Ngakoue wasn't quite himself last year because he was dealing with an injury, but he still logged 9.5 sacks.

5. Robert Quinn, DE, Eagles. Age: 33.
The Eagles traded for Robert Quinn, but didn't get much use out of him because of a knee injury. He's still a very talented edge rusher, though he just turned 33.

6. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, Browns. Age: 30.
There was some drama with Jadeveon Clowney being sent home by the team in the finale. Clowney is talented, but he's just been a mediocre-at-best producer.

7. Melvin Ingram, DE, Dolphins. Age: 34.
Melvin Ingram is slowing down now that he's in his mid-30s, but he's still a quality edge rusher. He recorded six sacks in 2022.

8. Trey Flowers, DE, Dolphins. Age: 30.
Trey Flowers was once known as a potent edge rusher, but he had a down 2021, then missed most of 2022 with an injury.

9. Clelin Ferrell, DE, Raiders. Age: 26.
Clelin Ferrell has been a huge bust as the former No. 4 overall pick, but perhaps he still has potential. He has totaled just 10 sacks in his career thus far.

10. Arden Key, DE, Jaguars. Age: 27.
Arden Key is a solid rotational pass rusher. He has accumulated 11 sacks in the past two seasons.

11. Shaq Lawson, DE, Bills. Age: 29.
Shaq Lawson is a solid, rotational pass rusher who accumulated 3.5 sacks last year.

12. Carlos Dunlap, DE, Chiefs. Age: 34.
Carlos Dunlap saw his sack total drop from 8.5 to four. That could be because he is now in his mid-30s.

13. John Cominsky, DE, Lions. Age: 27.
14. Dawuane Smoot, DE, Jaguars. Age: 28.
15. Charles Omenihu, DE, 49ers. Age: 26.
16. Kerry Hyder, DE, 49ers. Age: 32.
17. Steven Means, DE, Ravens. Age: 33.
18. Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, Ravens. Age: 34.
19. Andrew Van Ginkel, DE, Dolphins. Age: 28.
20. Morgan Fox, DE, Chargers. Age: 28.
21. Jordan Willis, DE, 49ers. Age: 28.
22. Kaden Elliss, DE, Saints. Age: 28.
23. Anthony Nelson, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 26.
24. Tyquan Lewis, DE, Colts. Age: 28.
25. Tarell Basham, DE, Titans. Age: 29.
26. William Gholston, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 32.
27. Rasheem Green, DE/DT, Texans. Age: 26.
28. Chase Winovich, DE, Browns. Age: 28.
29. DeMarcus Walker, DE/DT, Titans. Age: 28.
30. Austin Bryant, DE, Lions. Age: 26.
31. Carl Nassib, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 30.
32. Mario Edwards, DE, Titans. Age: 29.
33. Solomon Thomas, DE, Jets. Age: 27.
34. Dante Fowler, DE, Cowboys. Age: 29.
35. Efe Obada, DE, Redskins. Age: 31.
36. Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE/DT, Saints. Age: 29.
37. Vinny Curry, DE, Jets. Age: 35.
38. Isaac Rochell, DE, Raiders. Age: 28.
39. Stephen Weatherly, DE, Browns. Age: 29.
40. Ben Banogu, DE, Colts. Age: 27.
41. Tashawn Bower, DE, Raiders. Age: 28.
42. Darryl Johnson, DE, Seahawks. Age: 26.
43. Patrick O'Connor, DE, Buccaneers. Age: 29.

[Couch-Potato]

Guys, I can appreciate the creativity around F Clark's contract but after he wins a 2nd Super Bowl and becomes the 2nd leading sack specialist in post season history... well, he's not going to want to take a massive 2/3rds hit to his contract and I'm guessing he'll get paid better than just $7m somewhere.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Guys, I can appreciate the creativity around F Clark's contract but after he wins a 2nd Super Bowl and becomes the 2nd leading sack specialist in post season history... well, he's not going to want to take a massive 2/3rds hit to his contract and I'm guessing he'll get paid better than just $7m somewhere.

Then let him go somewhere. There is no way on God's green Earth that Brett Veach will retain Frank Clark at anywhere near his current contract numbers. If Frank won't rework his deal, he's gone. He was nearly gone last year.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by JPH83

I want Okoronkwo. Guy has a 23% pass rush win rate and is fine against the run. He's been rotational but getting more and more snaps and looks primed to break out in a bigger role. Doesn't have eye popping box scores and seems there's little interest. I think he's both plausible and would be fantastic. He'd be my priority even before guys like Omenihu. I love Davenport but that type I see no way we can get, and the vets outside of a cheap Ingram hold no interest for me.

Not a bad guy to target IMO. Good stuff.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Then let him go somewhere. There is no way on God's green Earth that Brett Veach will retain Frank Clark at anywhere near his current contract numbers. If Frank won't rework his deal, he's gone. He was nearly gone last year.

Yeah. We win next week then Frank is gone I'd imagine. He's gonna get a nice contract from someone who wants him in the locker room as the vet leader. Some team with a young Dline....and needs good vets to begin with.

I can see Chicago-especially if they end up drafting Anderson. Poles knows Frank very well from his time here and the Bears could use solid vets to help their kids.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Yeah. We win next week then Frank is gone I'd imagine. He's gonna get a nice contract from someone who wants him in the locker room as the vet leader. Some team with a young Dline....and needs good vets to begin with.

I can see Chicago-especially if they end up drafting Anderson. Poles knows Frank very well from his time here and the Bears could use solid vets to help their kids.

I counter with - who says no? Because if you do this, you have basically locked in Frank Clark as your Dunlap/Ingram for the next several years. The dude can flat out play when he is well. Veach has consistently worked with him and loves his talent. He is a good influence on Karlaftis.

This take brought to you by the guy who said they would likely restructure Frank last year.

[Nightfyre]

Also, sorry for the Double Tap on this post - but:

Frank Clark is good bang for the buck under this deal whether CP will acknowledge it or not. We have a lot of draft picks, but we are not likely to be drafting a day one EDGE, OT, DT and WR even given the resources we have. Those are a lot of premium positions to fill and having continuity of Clark enables the Chiefs to take a gifted project EDGE player. Again, this was the motivating factor for the restructure and this will be the motivating factor for the extension.

[mkp785]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I counter with - who says no? Because if you do this, you have basically locked in Frank Clark as your Dunlap/Ingram for the next several years. The dude can flat out play when he is well. Veach has consistently worked with him and loves his talent. He is a good influence on Karlaftis.

This take brought to you by the guy who said they would likely restructure Frank last year.

Yeah I've thought about that as I like Frank working with Karlaftis too and I think we'll be drafting DEs this yr. He and Jones are great voices in the locker room. I'm just not sure if he can't get more somewhere else, Chicago being at the top of that list.

I mean you're him. You just got your 2nd ring (Hopefully) and now you CAN re-sign here for that amount-which is good. Or the Bears come calling with a deal 2x that amount, its a very tough choice. Plus as I said you'd already have 2 rings.....

Chicago will have to spend too. They have like 80 million in cap space. I like them to be our primary target if we decide to trade OBJ.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by mkp785

Yeah I've thought about that as I like Frank working with Karlaftis too and I think we'll be drafting DEs this yr. He and Jones are great voices in the locker room. I'm just not sure if he can't get more somewhere else, Chicago being at the top of that list.

I mean you're him. You just got your 2nd ring (Hopefully) and now you CAN re-sign here for that amount-which is good. Or the Bears come calling with a deal 2x that amount, its a very tough choice. Plus as I said you'd already have 2 rings.....

Chicago will have to spend too. They have like 80 million in cap space. I like them to be our primary target if we decide to trade OBJ.

I really don't think the demand for Clark is going to be significant

[kccrow]

Frank Clark is a really difficult situation.

When he wants to, he can be a really good football player. The problem is that he's extremely inconsistent and unreliable, especially during the regular season.

No matter how good a player is in the playoffs, and we can absolutely acknowledge that Frank is good, you need players that get you to the playoffs. Now, Frank doesn't play so terribly that he's some great detriment to winning in the regular season but I think there are far too many games where he really doesn't facilitate it either.

Obviously, if you extend Clark he's probably starting or playing a significant role. The real issue is that if you're going to extend him, what is his value? And even then, can the Chiefs get better there in the draft?

You also have the problem of timing. You'd love to be able to extend Clark if you don't get value in the draft to replace him but the Chiefs need the cap space that reworking his deal will provide for free agency.

My opinion is that you re-work his deal for this year and you don't extend him right now. See how 2023 goes and how the draft goes. If Clark plays well, you can always re-sign him for 2024, and I'm sure Clark would be open to it.

If you extend Clark, I think the fully-guaranteed money would have to be low and I wouldn't do a signing bonus. I think you want a contract that has salary guarantee triggers, roster bonuses, and a lot of incentives. Keep it so you can get out of the contract at any time. The roster bonuses could turn into signing bonuses if you have to free cap space later on and want to still keep him around.