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Old 09-21-2019, 08:52 PM  
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Late night bullshit: Let's take a moment and remember the Todd Haley era existed.

That was an absolutely sublime time to be a Chiefs fan.

Chiefs get a new GM in Pioli pretty much immediately, but we went two months without an actual head coach until we hire Haley after the Super Bowl. We get lots of stories about how he's an offensive mastermind.

That momentum lasts less than a month when the Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel, effectively saddling Haley with one of the most inept beta males to ever take a snap in Kansas City for four unbelievable years.

Cassel misses the very first game with injury, which is the very last start we see of Brody Croyle, which of course he loses, and Todd Haley is seen on national television telling Croyle to snap the ****ing ball.

Haley spends most of the next three years exhibiting unhealthy levels of insane rage on the sidelines, almost always directed at his own players. Of particular ire is Dwayne Bowe, who occasionally lines up wrong and gets very visibly screamed at with some of the most disgusting anger faces I've ever seen on anyone.

I believe the third year as a head coach, he approaced the preseason in an unorthodox manner. He ramped up the starters' minutes all preseason instead of peaking in the third game. That leaves the KC first stringers playing the Green Bay fourth stringers in the fourth preseason game, and of course Matt Cassel still gets sacked and he has to basically wear a flak jacket all year because he got his ribs cracked.

Clay here on ChiefsPlanet once showed in a screenshot Haley purposefully trotting out the most uninspired lineups of offensive (non-)skill positions as Pioli routinely cheaped out on talent in free agency and couldn't draft to save his life.

He was hailed as a diva whisperer when we drafted Jon Baldwin, only for Baldwin to break his hand punching a teammate.

He played Thomas Jones in front of Jamaal Charles for an entire season. Thomas Jones got almost all the first quarter carries against the Ravens in the only playoff game the Chiefs had with Haley.

Haley once wore a grubby ballcap for a month straight to games because the Chiefs were on a win streak. There was absolutely no reason for the hat to have dirt on it, but he wanted the effect, I guess.

Josh McDaniel was the Broncos head coach, racing Haley to see who could destroy their historic franchise first, and our first game in Denver, Haley was denied an opportunity to challenge because the replay booth was "inoperable," leading Haley to curse out McDaniel instead of shaking his hand at the end of the game.

At least once he got in a shouting match with his own players on the sideline during a game.

He flipped off George Blowfish.

He started Tyler Palko over Kyle Orton.

And of course the oddest thing to have maybe ever happened to this team: he showed up to a KC Star interview, I think with Kent Babb, to talk about his relationship with Pioli, and he was described in the article as completely disheveled, searching the room for microphones as he was sure Pioli had the room bugged.

Just absolutely insane three years with had with that guy. I'm convinced nobody has ever been more satisfied with a win in Arrowhead as Haley must have when he was coaching Big Ben and those Steelers teams that spanked Alex Smith and Bob Sutton.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:08 PM   #46
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Unpopular opinion: I ****ing loved Todd Haley.

Obviously love where we're at more now, but will always have a soft spot for Todd, especially knowing how bad of a hand he got dealt from Pioli.
I wouldn't say love... But I'm with you.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:09 PM   #47
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Reminds me of my only chiefs road game I've attended. Even though KC won, had to be one of the worst games of "professional" football I've ever witnessed. Tyler Palko versus Caleb Hanie. Chiefs win only because of first half hail mary where Urlacher knocks the ball down in McClusters arms. Most positive memory was bear fans yelling at me to sit the F down when I cheered the only chiefs play I can recall going for more than 10 yards. God this thread makes me appreciate what we have now.

Awesome, isn’t it!

On occasion I feel bad for these other teams struggling with their QB situation.
Those 2-3 seconds pass, then I’m good, l9l.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:12 PM   #48
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Didn’t Haley take the team to a rap concert once?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:15 PM   #49
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Not quite. Croyle started one more game in 2010 against Whale's Vagina when Cassel had appendicitis.

Jones did have more carries than Jamaal Charles (thus, the CP meme "Charles needs more carries" was born) but it wasn't like he was the starter. I think he just operated under the premise that Charles was a small back so he was just too delicate to handle the majority workload. Also, Charles had that 41-yard scamper for the Chiefs' only score of that game in the playoffs, so even if Jones got almost all of the first quarter carries, JC had a pretty damn important one.
Haley got more efficient productivity out of JC than anyone, ever.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:23 PM   #50
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Haley got more efficient productivity out of JC than anyone, ever.
Yup. Also our shitty ol looked passable, bowe and dj had the best years of their career. And our defense was actually pretty tough. I'll never love haleys boring uncreative smashmouth football. But he is really good at coaching up players. Not a coincidence that Romeo and kitchens looked good coaching haleys players only to look like dogshit the next year.
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:29 PM   #51
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Yup. Also our shitty ol looked passable, bowe and dj had the best years of their career. And our defense was actually pretty tough. I'll never love haleys boring uncreative smashmouth football. But he is really good at coaching up players. Not a coincidence that Romeo and kitchens looked good coaching haleys players only to look like dogshit the next year.
Haley somehow coaxed 10 wins out of a team that Roleo "Play Good Football" Crennel turned into the worst 2-12 team in history.

I mean...SOC, Belcher, the whole thing was the worst season in the history of football. Any 0-16 team wasn't even as bad as the 2012 Chiefs.

Apparently, anyone really CAN win 2 games with guys off the street...
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Old 09-21-2019, 11:32 PM   #52
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Yup. Also our shitty ol looked passable, bowe and dj had the best years of their career. And our defense was actually pretty tough. I'll never love haleys boring uncreative smashmouth football. But he is really good at coaching up players. Not a coincidence that Romeo and kitchens looked good coaching haleys players only to look like dogshit the next year.
Also seems he may have been the only guy who could handle Antonio Brown. The wheels started falling off only after they got rid of him in Pittsburgh.
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Also seems he may have been the only guy who could handle Antonio Brown. The wheels started falling off only after they got rid of him in Pittsburgh.
They're a goddamn dumpster fire now.

Remember when he was hired in Pittsburgh, he said his main job was to 'extend Big Ben's career' and basically keep him from getting hurt?

Now what's up??
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:35 AM   #54
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Old 09-22-2019, 08:14 AM   #55
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Also seems he may have been the only guy who could handle Antonio Brown. The wheels started falling off only after they got rid of him in Pittsburgh.
Jon Baldwin.
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Of all the sins Haley committed here, this one is the worst:

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Haley was as big an ass in the locker room as he was in public. He also refused to let the trainers use the weight room early in the morning before the players got there. The king of team morale.
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