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Old 12-31-2018, 08:45 AM  
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:20 AM   #46
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Am I the only one who thinks he may not have been all that terrible? He kind of got a raw deal being saddled with Seimian, then Lynch and now Keenum.

What NFL coach would actually be able to find success with those bums under center?

Elway deserves to be fired.
Vikings went to the NFC Championship with Keenum last year, so there's one answer for you. I think Elway's approach was "win with defense", and have a capable vet at QB.

That said, Vance really only had one year to make that work. Add to that Elway trading away players at the deadline, and a rash of injuries. Hopefully Elway keeps rebooting the process every other year for both coach and QB. Keep the Broncos acting like a non-Patriots AFC East team.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:22 AM   #47
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Vikings went to the NFC Championship with Keenum last year, so there's one answer for you. I think Elway's approach was "win with defense", and have a capable vet at QB.

That said, Vance really only had one year to make that work. Add to that Elway trading away players at the deadline, and a rash of injuries. Hopefully Elway keeps rebooting the process every other year for both coach and QB. Keep the Broncos acting like a non-Patriots AFC East team.
It was CLEAR to anyone watching the Vikings last season that Keenum wouldn't be able to replicate that success.

This board laughed its ass off when they signed Keenum to $20m.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:26 AM   #48
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Agreed, and that's why I place the blame at Elway's feet.

Seimian overperformed but Osweiler, Lynch and Keenum were horrendous picks/signings.
Yeah. Guess I didn't explain that well enough. In a vacuum, selecting Siemian in the 7th was pretty damn good value. The fact that he was your starter for 2 seasons makes it pretty bad.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:27 AM   #49
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:27 AM   #50
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He took a qb in the first and he flopped

That’s what hurt the most
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:28 AM   #51
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He took a qb in the first and he flopped

That’s what hurt the most
Apparently they've got their eye on Drew Lock.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:30 AM   #52
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Apparently they've got their eye on Drew Lock.
We could only hope to be so lucky.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:51 AM   #53
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Not sure who can handle working with Elway. Don't see that as a top openming at this point.

Packers probably best but Rogers gonna have a lot of say/sway

Surprised that Tampa Bay shit canned their coach already.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:52 AM   #54
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I wanted them to do just well enough to be stuck with Keenum and Vance for another year. Oh well.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:52 AM   #55
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So would he be an upgrade over Sutton?
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So would he be an upgrade over Sutton?
Don't think so. He had some good tools in Miami as their DC and he wasn't very good.
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Surprised that Tampa Bay shit canned their coach already
19-29 your first 3 years is gonna get you fired most of the time.
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Don't think so. He had some good tools in Miami as their DC and he wasn't very good.
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Vance Joseph is a crybaby who blames others for his own shortcomings.

He was a god awful head coach. A piss poor leader. I want him nowhere near this organization.

If I had the choice between Joseph and Sutton, I'd really have to think about it. Seriously. I'd probably take Joseph just to have change for change's sake, but unless it came with a guarantee of a short leash and firing if results didn't take place, I certainly wouldn't be happy about bringing him aboard as DC.

**** VJ in the neck. I'm glad he's gone. I'm not worried about Horse face finding a good HC/QB, either. He's just as nepotistic as Pioli was, and the NFL is starting to realize that. Quality candidates are going to avoid that Denver job and all the shitstorm of unstable ownership that comes with it.
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