Misc Maui Wildfires - Page 4

seamonster · 08-09-2023, 11:04 AM

Maui is burning...

Current photo of "Haleakala" (that road is the start of the "Road to Hana").

Smoke blowing across the landscape as cars pass by on a highway

Smoke blowing across the landscape as cars pass by on a highway

There's housing all up and down that side of the mountain and it's immensely sketchy right now. Even Kihei is in danger (south central). Prayers to the locals and anyone who's trapped in this hellscape. Seemed as if the high winds caught them off guard. But beyond the loss of life of the worlds coolest tree (Banyan tree the size of a city block) is probably gone now (https://lahainarestoration.org/lahaina-banyan-tree/).

Up to date map of the wildfire:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/08/09/hawaii-wildfires-maui-lahaina-dora/

**Donger** · 08-10-2023, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Whats wrong with the local government? How the **** do you not mobilize and evacuate people.

It is an embarrassment

They did. Just stop.

https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12633

BleedingRed · 08-10-2023, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

They did. Just stop.

https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12633

Jesus dude stop sucking government dick for ONE minute the order was issued 5 hours AFTER the fire was already 1,000 acres (per your own link)

**Donger** · 08-10-2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Jesus dude stop sucking government dick for ONE minute the order was issued 5 hours AFTER the fire was already 1,000 acres (per your own link)

Again, just stop.

Sounds like it flared back up.

https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12622

Evacuations were ordered at 6:40 a.m. in the area surrounding Lahaina Intermediate School. There were two people at the Lahaina Civic Center evacuation shelter as of 8:50 a.m.

BleedingRed · 08-10-2023, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Again, just stop.

Sounds like it flared back up.

https://www.mauicounty.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=12622

Evacuations were ordered at 6:40 a.m. in the area surrounding Lahaina Intermediate School. There were two people at the Lahaina Civic Center evacuation shelter as of 8:50 a.m.

36 people sure could have used some more advanced help, also you link says it was "100% contained" oops

**Donger** · 08-10-2023, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

36 people sure could have used some more advanced help, also you link says it was "100% contained" oops

You missed this, I assume:

Sounds like it flared back up.

Yes, 36 people are dead so far and you're already on a rant about THE GUBMINT. Like I said, what the **** is wrong with you?

**Bearcat** · 08-10-2023, 11:02 AM

Uh, maybe we could not turn this thread into 100+ posts bickering back and forth after dude comes in with zero knowledge to tell us how embarrassing things are... that would be great, kthx.

FloridaMan88 · 08-10-2023, 11:08 AM

Evacuating from the Florida Keys is a shitshow before the threat of a major hurricane… one main highway in/out and a small airport… and that is WITH much more advanced notice.

Trying to evacuate quickly with a rapidly developing disaster from an island… it’s a challenge.

Not hard to understand… JFC.

BleedingRed · 08-10-2023, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Evacuating from the Florida Keys is a shitshow before the threat of a major hurricane… one main highway in/out and a small airport… and that is WITH much more advanced notice.

Trying to evacuate quickly with a rapidly developing disaster from an island… it’s a challenge.

Not hard to understand… JFC.

Its not even comparable. The West Side of the island is not big at all. I've been all over it. I would understand the people passing if it was on the East Side of the island but not the West. And I am knowledgeable this fire is taking place on the WET side of the island. They must have had a no rain recently.

seamonster · 08-10-2023, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Its not even comparable. The West Side of the island is not big at all. I've been all over it. I would understand the people passing if it was on the East Side of the island but not the West. And I am knowledgeable this fire is taking place on the WET side of the island. They must have had a no rain recently.

You're thinking of the wrong island. People do cliff diving and jungle hikes on the East side. It's world-famous for being a tropical oasis (see Road to Hana). Even in the southern parts of the end side you get more rain (Wailea). The south west is dry as ****. Believe me.

But to your point, let's say you're right about the evacuation call. Maui County ****ed up. They were worried about calling a wholesale evacutation because that highway get's jammed up on good days and they didn't want a firestorm to descend upon a traffic jam (which at points hugs a cliff side) so they held off calling the evacuation until it was too late. Are they the bad guys? Or is it the piece of shit cooking fish during 60+ MPH winds on a red-flag day? Who should live the rest of their lives with the guilt? Keep in mind this town is packed with families that have young children. Now's not the time to point fingers.

Mr. Plow · 08-10-2023, 11:32 AM

Oh good. Donger is here.

BleedingRed · 08-10-2023, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by seamonster

You're thinking of the wrong island. People do cliff diving and jungle hikes on the East side. It's world-famous for being a tropical oasis (see Road to Hana). Even in the southern parts of the end side you get more rain (Wailea). The south west is dry as ****. Believe me.

But to your point, let's say you're right about the evacuation call. Maui County ****ed up. They were worried about calling a wholesale evacutation because that highway get's jammed up on good days and they didn't want a firestorm to descend upon a traffic jam (which at points hugs a cliff side) so they held off calling the evacuation until it was too late. Are they the bad guys? Or is it the piece of shit cooking fish during 60+ MPH winds on a red-flag day? Who should live the rest of their lives with the guilt? Keep in mind this town is packed with families that have young children. Now's not the time to point fingers.

Fair,

But man it just feels like the amount of resources they could have brought in sooner. I get the not causing a panic bit but meh.

And I know the West side, I've zip lined down the entire face of the mountain on the head. The East side I'd understand because the Road to Hana is ****ing crazy.

But the West side of the island does have good highways.

Loneiguana · 08-10-2023, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

So can someone explain to me how the **** this thing got so out of control in the first place.

This isn't Cali with huge amounts of land. You have the US NAVY right ****ing there....

A friend you lives on Maui mentioned most business are propane fueled. Once one went up in that wind, that was that.

/stayed at lahaina 2 years ago glad I got a picture of the Bannon tree and front street.

Loneiguana · 08-10-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

California is also far better equipped to handle wildfires than Hawaii due to having them almost yearly. What honestly could the Navy do? I guess evacuate by sea. I get it, but there are probably good reasons why they haven't been used outside of just inaction. It does really suck that 36 people so far have died and hopefully that number doesn't go higher.

It was moving so fast, people were jumping into the ocean to escape the flames.

There really wasn't a lot of time unfortunately.

DJ's left nut · 08-10-2023, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Fair,

But man it just feels like the amount of resources they could have brought in sooner. I get the not causing a panic bit but meh.

I do wonder what could've been done with the fireboats. They have to have several at Pearl, right?

Those water cannons can launch about 500 feet. Obviously that won't get you inland very far. I wonder if the beaches are just really shallow around there so they couldn't get anything in close enough to really make a difference.

Or maybe they just don't use those anymore.

WhawhaWhat · 08-10-2023, 01:13 PM

This is cool but also terrifying. The text chain is really long so I left it in the tweet but it's worth a read.

My brother’s girlfriend’s cousin and his family were caught in their vehicle in Maui while the wildfires suddenly erupted around them.

No cell service, so Apple Emergency SOS was the only way they could get in contact with first responders. Literally saved their lives. pic.twitter.com/PpxNwTGOAf
— Michael J. Miraflor (@michaelmiraflor) August 10, 2023

08-09-2023, 11:04 AM
seamonster Veteran Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $5805409	Maui Wildfires Maui is burning... Current photo of "Haleakala" (that road is the start of the "Road to Hana"). There's housing all up and down that side of the mountain and it's immensely sketchy right now. Even Kihei is in danger (south central). Prayers to the locals and anyone who's trapped in this hellscape. Seemed as if the high winds caught them off guard. But beyond the loss of life of the worlds coolest tree (Banyan tree the size of a city block) is probably gone now (https://lahainarestoration.org/lahaina-banyan-tree/). Up to date map of the wildfire: https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/08/09/hawaii-wildfires-maui-lahaina-dora/
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08-10-2023, 11:08 AM	#52
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $2842906	Evacuating from the Florida Keys is a shitshow before the threat of a major hurricane… one main highway in/out and a small airport… and that is WITH much more advanced notice. Trying to evacuate quickly with a rapidly developing disaster from an island… it’s a challenge. Not hard to understand… JFC.
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08-10-2023, 01:13 PM	#60
WhawhaWhat MVP Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $1261116	This is cool but also terrifying. The text chain is really long so I left it in the tweet but it's worth a read. My brother’s girlfriend’s cousin and his family were caught in their vehicle in Maui while the wildfires suddenly erupted around them. No cell service, so Apple Emergency SOS was the only way they could get in contact with first responders. Literally saved their lives. pic.twitter.com/PpxNwTGOAf — Michael J. Miraflor (@michaelmiraflor) August 10, 2023
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