gun question

[Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan]

Originally Posted by Lzen

If you want something that looks similar to an AK but is a little different, try a VZ2008 (VZ58). I got mine from Palmetto State Armory for $400 with a cleaning kit and 3 mags.

https://youtu.be/WIRN_XKMyhI

https://youtu.be/4TexeQ0QPFU

I'd vouch for this. The Czech weapons are generally superior to the Russian versions.

[kepp]

Originally Posted by Lzen

If you want something that looks similar to an AK but is a little different, try a VZ2008 (VZ58). I got mine from Palmetto State Armory for $400 with a cleaning kit and 3 mags.

https://youtu.be/WIRN_XKMyhI

https://youtu.be/4TexeQ0QPFU

Although the innards aren't interchangeable with AKs, are they?

[Munson]

Originally Posted by kepp

Although the innards aren't interchangeable with AKs, are they?

The parts are NOT interchangeable.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by kepp

Although the innards aren't interchangeable with AKs, are they?

Nope. Watch the videos. One of them shows the differences between the VZ and the AK.

[MahiMike]

'Murica.

[Danguardace]

Asking the question as an ignorant Brit how easy is it to get hold of a Piece in the US?

I hear stories about buying them in Walmart and some banks offering them as a joining gift.

Is this true?

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Asking the question as an ignorant Brit how easy is it to get hold of a Piece in the US?

I hear stories about buying them in Walmart and some banks offering them as a joining gift.

Is this true?

In Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Texas you can get hand guns, ammo and beer from vending machines. Just swipe your EBT card and you got yourself a fully automatic Smith & Wesson revolver and Schlitz malt liquor.

[Munson]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

In Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Texas you can get hand guns, ammo and beer from vending machines. Just swipe your EBT card and you got yourself a fully automatic Smith & Wesson revolver and Schlitz malt liquor.

Here in Kansas, you can buy ghost guns at any Quik Trip or 7-Eleven. They even come with .30-caliber clips!

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by Munson

Here in Kansas, you can buy ghost guns at any Quik Trip or 7-Eleven. They even come with .30-caliber clips!

Yeah, but you poor bastards still have a ban on multi-automatic-round-weapons. We don't!

[dred]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

In Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Texas you can get hand guns, ammo and beer from vending machines. Just swipe your EBT card and you got yourself a fully automatic Smith & Wesson revolver and Schlitz malt liquor.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by rockymtnchief

In Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Texas you can get hand guns, ammo and beer from vending machines. Just swipe your EBT card and you got yourself a fully automatic Smith & Wesson revolver and Schlitz malt liquor.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Danguardace

Asking the question as an ignorant Brit how easy is it to get hold of a Piece in the US?

I hear stories about buying them in Walmart and some banks offering them as a joining gift.

Is this true?

I have never seen a bank offer them as a gift. If you buy a gun in a retail store, you have to pass a background check. Yes, Walmart sells rifles. Still, they won't sell you one if you've been convicted of a felony or domestic violence and a number of other things.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I have never seen a bank offer them as a gift. If you buy a gun in a retail store, you have to pass a background check. Yes, Walmart sells rifles. Still, they won't sell you one if you've been convicted of a felony or domestic violence and a number of other things.

He's getting that from "Bowling for Columbine", that Moore fake-umentary about the "gun culture" in Murica.

Bowling For Columbine opens with a sequence where Moore goes to bank to take advantage of one of their offers: open an account, receive a gun. Various sources including the bank itself have stated that this sequence is a wholly inaccurate depiction of what a customer would go through if they actually took the bank up on their offer. As the above copy of the advertisement shows, the gun is not free (to receive it, you have to deposit a certain amount of money into the account for a certain period of time and by receiving it, you agree to surrender all of the interest from your account until the gun is paid off), and is only one of various “Instant Interest” items available to customers. The bank itself has stated that the customer would have to fill in two sets of paperwork, one of which is the information required for a background check. The gun is then shipped to either the bank or a gun shop from a different location.
The lion’s share of the sequence is fake since acquiring a rifle from a bank is nowhere near as quick and easy as Bowling For Columbine depicts it to be. And because it’s a fake, it immediately breaches both the spirit and definition of what a documentary is. The puzzling thing about this sequence is that it doesn’t help Moore’s overall point that poverty, fear, and the US’s social climate is the reason for a high rate of gun murders, not the presence of guns. So what was the point of going through the hassle and expense of staging it?

http://whatculture.com/film/5-reason...ocumentary.php

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

He's getting that from "Bowling for Columbine", that Moore fake-umentary about the "gun culture" in Murica.



http://whatculture.com/film/5-reason...ocumentary.php

Ah, ok. I have never watched any of Moore's garbage.

[Randallflagg]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Ah, ok. I have never watched any of Moore's garbage.

Yeah, not to head off into a political direction, but I saw my first Moore some twenty? Years ago. Walked out after 10 minutes. Propaganda and nothing more.

On a lighter note....my Wife and I are both in our 60s. She told me a couple of weeks ago that she wanted to get her CCW so I'm getting her a class along with a Bersa .380 for Christmas.

Anyone out there have any experience with the Bersa? Frankly, I had considered a small 9mm, but she is a petite woman and not too "comfortable" with guns - especially my Sigs (P220, P226 and SP2022). Seems like the PPK clone would fit her better.

Thoughts?