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01-16-2019, 09:10 AM | #46 |
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I really really REALLY think the idea of getting anyone meaningful in free agency ought be just about summarily dismissed.
As has been noted, when we talk about our cap figure for next year that's not even including depth guys like Hamilton, Lucas and Butker who will all get a little bit of it. We're MUCH tighter against the cap than people are discussing if we actually get the extensions put together for guys like Hill and Jones. Common sense and long-term planning says that we really need to get those done and not enter a potential tag situation or end up letting them hit the market outright. We absolutely have to take care of our own and now's the time to do that. Once that gets done, we're gonna be tight up against the cap and any discussion of guys like Landon Collins is just a complete non-starter unless you're willing to jettison some key part of our younger core or trade off Dee Ford. The alternative is to simply say "**** it" and push the chips in for 2019. You tag Ford, you let Jones, Hill and Fuller play out their final years at a pittance and you get FAs with low first year figures knowing that their salaries will jump in 2020 and you're simply gonna lose 2, 3 or even all 4 of those guys. It's there. It's a possibility. But man oh man does it strike me as foolish.
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The only way I can see it is if they are able to get something done with Houston and Berry money wise to save some, but hell, i'm not really even sure if that's possible. You've also got Schwartz who could ask for a raise. |
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01-16-2019, 09:24 AM | #48 |
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I think you need to look for guys that are more filler in free agency than actual flash.
Maybe a guy on the tail end of his career or a young guy that just didn't fit where he got drafted. Shane Ray fits that profile, but if he weren't from MU, I doubt anyone would be that enamored there. Someone like Mo Wilkerson coming off an injury for a prove it deal could be interesting. |
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So in year 1 he'd get $10 million in salary and signing bonus with a cap hit of $6.8 million (2 million in pro-rated bonus, 2 million in base and 2.8 in accelerated bonus off his previous deal). Years 2-4 would be at 8, 9 and 10 respectively in cap. His cash payments in year 2 would be a slight bump from 6.5 to 7 and his cap figure would be effectively unchanged that year. His next two years would see slightly below market salaries but if we were to guarantee the salary for years 2 and 3, that would provide him incentive to take it. It's doable and if you were interested, now would be the time given that there's still some risk of age/injury related decline. That said, he just had the best year of his career and he may be more inclined to simply bet on himself. It's just damn hard for a player to hold out these days with the penalties associated with it. Especially when they don't play a high profile position and have 2 more years left on the deal.
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Just based on his social media and his wifes and his brothers, I think he really likes in in KC. Especially now with Mahomes, he seems to really like being with Andy. He's a leader on the offense for sure so I wouldn't be upset keeping him around. He's a stud. |
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There are a lot of even older vets out there in FA who we could attract on the cheap. Some productive vets to bolster our defense in the short term could be a good play while we develop our draft picks and make them really earn starting jobs. |
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Earl will probably get like 3 years 40 mil though. You could fit it in sure, but damn.
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On Ford, I think a non-ridiculous contract is $13-16m per year average. |
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I know many don't trust him and think he's a regression candidate - he may well be. But if we don't tag him and he hits the market, his demand will be HUGE. He may be the most sought after defensive player in all of free agency. His agent knows that and will set his demands accordingly. If we got him at $16 million in AAV, we'd be damn lucky. I don't see it as being likely but I can still hope...
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Something like 4 years and $70 million? |
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You're probably creating a situation where you definitely can't touch FA in 2020, but they kind of made that bed when they signed Watkins. I just made this on Spotrac, this is the roster only re-signing ERFA/RFA but giving Hill and Jones extensions per the recent KCCrow mock - https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tools/ro...4165d70361fb5/ It gives $24m to play with but for that, you need to make a decision on Ford and then make tons of little re-signings like maybe bring Devey back for line depth or Sherman or DAT Question for DJ I guess - do you let Ford walk if moving to a 4-3? |
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That's pretty much exactly what I think it would cost and a deal I'd be willing to make. I would be nervous - you can't help but be on long-term deals - but I'd do it and he'd be the throughput for the next generation of Chiefs pass-rushers after 1 last season from Houston in 2019.
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Barring any major injuries....I think that makes us better than 12-4 next year. |
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He'd be utilized just fine in a 4-3 but ultimately our OLB use is so fluid that it just may not matter anymore.
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