***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rasputin]

I think everyone knows someone or family or friend that has died from Covid. I think the real sad part is that the isolation of loved ones is got to be the worst part. Not being able to hug or be there for the sick in close proximity to give comfort. I haven't gone through this thread for a long time because of my depression but my heart goes out to everyone who has been affected by loss of people they know that meant something to them. prayers sent and I'll pray for anyone that asks.



All that said what is weird is, neither me or my GF has got the shot. With COPD I could be wrong but I really don't want to risk the shot making me sick. My doctor suggested i get it. My work or if you are a Kansan employee is required to or mandated to get the vacs but you can get exempt for medical reasons but my doctor wouldn't sign off on it. Or religious reasons, and all I had to do was check a box and sign the paper.

Well I was off for a period in January and I stayed with my GF who got sick from Covid. She even used my Burt's Beeze champstick and I never got sick but I'm surprised I didn't catch it. She has lingering affects but she never got too sick either but mostly fatigue. I think the reason i didn't get it is I've had it before but I blamed a Subway sandwich making me sick with diarea one day and throwing up the next day and four days of fatigue but I felt so drained I never went and got checked but after the fourth day I felt fine and went back to work without any symptoms. About twice a year I come down with bronchitis because of COPD and get roids to help and maybe it helped but I think I'm immune ?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Rasputin

I think everyone knows someone or family or friend that has died from Covid. I think the real sad part is that the isolation of loved ones is got to be the worst part. Not being able to hug or be there for the sick in close proximity to give comfort. I haven't gone through this thread for a long time because of my depression but my heart goes out to everyone who has been affected by loss of people they know that meant something to them. prayers sent and I'll pray for anyone that asks.



All that said what is weird is, neither me or my GF has got the shot. With COPD I could be wrong but I really don't want to risk the shot making me sick. My doctor suggested i get it. My work or if you are a Kansan employee is required to or mandated to get the vacs but you can get exempt for medical reasons but my doctor wouldn't sign off on it. Or religious reasons, and all I had to do was check a box and sign the paper.

Well I was off for a period in January and I stayed with my GF who got sick from Covid. She even used my Burt's Beeze champstick and I never got sick but I'm surprised I didn't catch it. She has lingering affects but she never got too sick either but mostly fatigue. I think the reason i didn't get it is I've had it before but I blamed a Subway sandwich making me sick with diarea one day and throwing up the next day and four days of fatigue but I felt so drained I never went and got checked but after the fourth day I felt fine and went back to work without any symptoms. About twice a year I come down with bronchitis because of COPD and get roids to help and maybe it helped but I think I'm immune ?

If your doctor thinks you should get it, I'm not sure that the opinions of random dudes on the internet matter.

[Rain Man]

The governor of Colorado declared yesterday that Covid measures are over (barring some new variant or something), and Coloradans can go back to normal.

https://www.denverpost.com/2022/02/2...covid-roadmap/

Over 80 percent of Coloradans are vaccinated and over 90 percent have some sort of vaccine or acquired immunity.

[2112]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If your doctor thinks you should get it, I'm not sure that the opinions of random dudes on the internet matter.

I would go with this advice. I got Covid in October 2020 and then got vaxed in may 2021. My doctor told me not to get boosted because the chances of me dying is 0.1% and to wait because even better vaccine boosters are coming out soon.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 2112

I would go with this advice. I got Covid in October 2020 and then got vaxed in may 2021. My doctor told me not to get boosted because the chances of me dying is 0.1% and to wait because even better vaccine boosters are coming out soon.

Sounds like a whole lot of speculation on his part.

Better boosters? MAYBE against the omicron variant in particular. But how well will those tailored to target omicron hold up against other strains?

A lot of unanswered questions. Saying something "better" is in the pipeline is pure speculation.

[TLO]

That said. You having a natural infection and being vaxxed, you probably don't even need a booster.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by TLO

That said. You having a natural infection and being vaxxed, you probably don't even need a booster.

The use of "vaccinated" and "booster" is subjective at best. A lot of countries don't consider a person vaccinated unless they have had 4 total shots. A person is probably not "vaccinated" unless they have had all boosters. That is the way it has worked in the past with every other vaccination.

[2112]

Originally Posted by TLO

Sounds like a whole lot of speculation on his part.

Better boosters? MAYBE against the omicron variant in particular. But how well will those tailored to target omicron hold up against other strains?

A lot of unanswered questions. Saying something "better" is in the pipeline is pure speculation.

Originally Posted by TLO

That said. You having a natural infection and being vaxxed, you probably don't even need a booster.

I’m not worried about it. I’m in pretty good health and shape and I’ve been exposed to Covid multiple times this winter and didn’t get it.

I’m gonna rely on my immune system for the near future.

[2112]

Originally Posted by 2112

I’m not worried about it. I’m in pretty good health and shape and I’ve been exposed to Covid multiple times this winter and didn’t get it.

I’m gonna rely on my immune system for the near future.

Also, being infected first and then getting vaxed after seems to give out super human immunity lol I’d have to agree with that in my case so far.

[TLO]

Cases have all but disappeared around here. Averaging like 12 - 15 per day. Down from 250+ a day a month or so ago.

Hospitalizations in the mid teens and holding steady.

[jdubya]

Strange times. My 18 year old daughter had her first 2 Moderna shots but never got around to her 3rd. Covid is all but over now but she thinks her friends all believe she has had her 3rd shot. She says she feels like she is being dishonest by not telling them she hasn’t had her 3rd shot. I explained that if she wants her 3rd shot for health reasons then go for it but don’t do it if only out of peer pressure.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Strange times. My 18 year old daughter had her first 2 Moderna shots but never got around to her 3rd. Covid is all but over now but she thinks her friends all believe she has had her 3rd shot. She says she feels like she is being dishonest by not telling them she hasn’t had her 3rd shot. I explained that if she wants her 3rd shot for health reasons then go for it but don’t do it if only out of peer pressure.

If she thinks her friends THINK she has her 3rd and she hasn't, she should be honest with them and just say she hasn't gotten it.

That being said, if that's a problem for them, she should find new friends that have better things to do with their ****ing time.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Strange times. My 18 year old daughter had her first 2 Moderna shots but never got around to her 3rd. Covid is all but over now but she thinks her friends all believe she has had her 3rd shot. She says she feels like she is being dishonest by not telling them she hasn’t had her 3rd shot. I explained that if she wants her 3rd shot for health reasons then go for it but don’t do it if only out of peer pressure.

it's none of their business how many shots she's had

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by loochy

it's none of their business how many shots she's had

Exactly.

I don't mind if people ask me if I'm vaxxed. It's a yes/no question.

But they're not getting my complete history, **** that.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Strange times. My 18 year old daughter had her first 2 Moderna shots but never got around to her 3rd. Covid is all but over now but she thinks her friends all believe she has had her 3rd shot. She says she feels like she is being dishonest by not telling them she hasn’t had her 3rd shot. I explained that if she wants her 3rd shot for health reasons then go for it but don’t do it if only out of peer pressure.

I'm as pro-vax as they come, and I don't see a huge need to know whether people are boosted or not, especially since things are looking pretty stable right now. The chances of someone with two shots and asymptomatic infecting someone with three shots are incredibly low.