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They come here and the government has some understanding and talks with them, has ships and bodies, and knows something about what they are. 25 16.23%
They come here, and the government investigates sightings and keeps secrets and has evidence but they don't know much. 31 20.13%
They exist and they come here but no one (including government) has any solid physical evidence or shocking secrets. 11 7.14%
They exist and are intelligent and could come here but they don't. 18 11.69%
Intelligent life exists in some form but can't come here because of distance/technology challenges. 54 35.06%
Something exists out there somewhere but it isn't intelligent. 8 5.19%
There are no life forms anywhere else. 7 4.55%
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Old 05-30-2015, 07:46 PM  
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What is your stance on aliens?
I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:03 PM   #541
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:04 PM   #542
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:10 PM   #543
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:10 PM   #544
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:16 PM   #545
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Here are a few things to consider:

1. You assume aliens have a prime directive to stay undetected.
2. You assume aliens are visible in the physical realm by our understanding of matter.
3. You assume if you saw an alien outright, you would identify it as such.
4. You assume the only reason for intelligent lifeforms to visit earth is something you currently have thought of or can comprehend.
5. You assume the ability to travel through time and space is purely a matter of technology.
1) yes, i assume that in the video you posted, they BROKE the prime directive that you mention...LOL

2) yes, i assume in the video YOU posted, they were detected by the visible spectrum AND recorded

3) yes I assume YOU identified the thing in the video as an alien, and then pretended we should all make that assumption as well

4) yes I assume there would be a logical reason for them coming here, and breaking #1 and coming here in 2004 to do some flips, break rule #1 makes no sense. so yes, if this advanced civilization has no logic and is willing to break the prime directive then sure...that might be them on the video you posted

5) yes i assume travel speed is based on technology. what else what it would be based on?
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:20 PM   #546
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I never equated the UFOs to aliens.
wait so now you admit this is probably not an alien?

ok...

then we agree..My bad...

For some odd reason I thought you were arguing that it would be even remotely possibly an advanced civilization came all that way...and TRIED to remain undetected but then accidentally got caught....

because yes, that shit is stupid
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:26 PM   #547
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Old 02-15-2018, 02:46 PM   #548
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:02 PM   #549
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Old 02-15-2018, 03:23 PM   #551
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What is your stance on aliens?
There is plenty of evidence that’s up for debate on authenticity, what it represents, etc. and ultimately each person has to decide to what extent they believe or disbelieve it. I have no problems that.

The silliest argument of all though is limiting an alien species to our understanding of life and the universe. Just because it would take us an unavailable amount of time and resources doesn’t mean that’s the case for potential aliens.

Nobody has any idea what the world will look like from a technological point of view 10,000 years from now. Now try to imagine a civilization a million years beyond us. Outright dismissing it as a possibility they could get here is much too far in the opposite direction of being a unquestioning believer for me to consider you as being open minded enough on this subject.
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There is plenty of evidence that’s up for debate on authenticity, what it represents, etc. and ultimately each person has to decide to what extent they believe or disbelieve it. I have no problems that.

The silliest argument of all though is limiting an alien species to our understanding of life and the universe. Just because it would take us an unavailable amount of time and resources doesn’t mean that’s the case for potential aliens.

Nobody has any idea what the world will look like from a technological point of view 10,000 years from now. Now try to imagine a civilization a million years beyond us. Outright dismissing it as a possibility they could get here is much too far in the opposite direction of being a unquestioning believer for me to consider you as being open minded enough on this subject.
I bet their world looks a lot like IKEA.
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