Football Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes - Page 37

Wallcrawler · 10:50 AM

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

Hammock Parties · 09-09-2022, 09:09 AM

The #Ravens and QB Lamar Jackson did not reach a long-term deal before today's deadline, GM Eric DeCosta announces.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 9, 2022

DRM08 · 09-09-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The #Ravens and QB Lamar Jackson did not reach a long-term deal before today's deadline, GM Eric DeCosta announces.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 9, 2022

Will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Wallcrawler · 09-09-2022, 01:26 PM

The league stopped giving huge deals to running backs. Not surprised.

DeathByArrows · 09-09-2022, 01:45 PM

Baltimore's smart. They have a back-up with legs that can also throw the football in Huntley. Something Lamar can't do.

Greg Roman's also getting canned next year so they might go an entirely different route and find a coordinator that can draw up passing concepts.

RedinTexas · 09-09-2022, 02:51 PM

The Broncos will be looking for a new QB next year. They'll probably sign Lamar.

**RealSNR** · 09-09-2022, 02:57 PM

Honestly, what the hell is he asking for? The moon? The Ravens offered him top AAV QB money.

Was it all fully guaranteed? Probably not. If that's what he's expecting, I don't think he's going to get that anywhere. There's only one Cleveland.

tredadda · 09-09-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Honestly, what the hell is he asking for? The moon? The Ravens offered him top AAV QB money.

Was it all fully guaranteed? Probably not. If that's what he's expecting, I don't think he's going to get that anywhere. There's only one Cleveland.

Even if he can’t equal Watson’s guaranteed money I would think he probably wants close to that. With his playing style he would be stupid for not asking for that. Plus he holds a Trump card over every other AFC QB not named Mahomes and that is a league MVP.

Coach · 09-09-2022, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Even if he can’t equal Watson’s guaranteed money I would think he probably wants close to that. With his playing style he would be stupid for not asking for that. Plus he holds a Trump card over every other AFC QB not named Mahomes and that is a league MVP.

Except he isn't any good in the playoffs when it really counts. He's 1-3 so far.

htismaqe · 09-09-2022, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Except he isn't any good in the playoffs when it really counts. He's 1-3 so far.

That doesn't really matter. Watson, Dak, Cousins, there's tons of guys in the top 10 in salary that don't have playoff victories on their resumes.

DeathByArrows · 09-09-2022, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That doesn't really matter. Watson, Dak, Cousins, there's tons of guys in the top 10 in salary that don't have playoff victories on their resumes.

All three of those QB's have a proven ability to throw the football.

Coach · 09-09-2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That doesn't really matter. Watson, Dak, Cousins, there's tons of guys in the top 10 in salary that don't have playoff victories on their resumes.

I see DeathByArrows took my thunder, but he is correct.

Those guys you listed can actually, you know, throw the football, in almost all levels of the field.

Jackson can't do shit outside of the hashmarks. This has been established, and until he can actually hit outside the hashmarks in a consistent manner, he isn't shit.

Edited: Plus a 16 TD / 13 INT ratio isn't steller either. And going from 2019 to 2021, his numbers has gone down in most categories while his INT's has increased.

htismaqe · 09-09-2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathByArrows

All three of those QB's have a proven ability to throw the football.

But not get to, or win in, the playoffs. Which was the original point.

FloridaMan88 · 09-09-2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The #Ravens and QB Lamar Jackson did not reach a long-term deal before today's deadline, GM Eric DeCosta announces.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 9, 2022

Lamar Jackson is likely going to cost himself a lot of $$$ by thinking he can be his own agent.

NFL contract negotiations are complex, especially for a guy who can barely read.

Coach · 09-09-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

But not get to, or win in, the playoffs. Which was the original point.

And he gotten into the playoffs 4 times, and lost 3 of them.

htismaqe · 09-09-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

I see DeathByArrows took my thunder, but he is correct.

Those guys you listed can actually, you know, throw the football, in almost all levels of the field.

Jackson can't do shit outside of the hashmarks.

Edited: Plus a 16 TD / 13 INT ratio isn't steller either.

None of those guys have been an NFL MVP. None of those guys have even consistently MADE the playoffs, let alone win.

I'm not saying that Lamar Jackson should get paid. I don't think he should even play QB.

But that's not how NFL salaries work. Guys get paid all the time that don't deserve it.

01-16-2020, 09:14 AM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4172912	Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop. Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell. There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points. Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest. Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays. When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind. The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true. Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special. Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead. The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back. Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring. Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game. Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances. Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived. Last edited by Wallcrawler; 01-16-2020 at 10:50 AM..
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