In case anyone hadn't decided on the KC Star yet

[DJ's left nut]

They're doubling down and hiding behind an 'editorial board' byline so nobody has to put their name on this shit.

https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/e...mpression=true

Now that the full 11-minute recording of Chiefs wide receiver Tyreek Hill and his now former fiancee, Crystal Espinal, talking about violence in their relationship has been aired, many fans are saying wow, this changes everything.

It does? That Hill, who didn’t know Espinal was taping him, denies ever hitting her or their son in what he thought was a private conversation is neither surprising nor exculpatory.

Abusers typically tell not only the police but friends, family, therapists, priests and even themselves they’ve never done anything wrong.

And if anything, the fact that Hill now says he didn’t hit punch or choke Espinal in 2014 makes him look worse rather than better. He pleaded guilty to those charges, publicly apologized, went through extensive therapy and declared himself reformed after probation. If he’s now back to saying that none of this ever happened, that’s not just a lie but a worrying one.

“I didn’t touch you in 2014,” he says on the tape. “And put that on everything I love, bro. That’s the real truth.”

That Espinal isn’t screaming at him that no, it’s not the truth, real or otherwise, is taken by some supporters as proof that he is innocent.

But why a woman who has been injured by him before and he’s threatening to hurt again might not do that should be obvious.


When she instead repeatedly asks him where her bruises came from if he never hit her, he doesn’t answer because there isn’t an answer that he likes well enough to repeat.

On Thursday, Espinal filed a petition in Johnson County seeking a paternity test for their newborn twins. She has full custody of them — they live with her — and she is asking for child support and only supervised visits for Hill. Her lawyer in the matter is legal counsel for SAFEHOME, a Johnson County group that supports survivors of domestic violence.

The NFL, meanwhile, seems ready to let Hill off with a brief suspension because the legal case against him isn’t going anywhere, but these things are still true:

Hill’s son was removed from his home after a child abuse investigation was launched. The Johnson County district attorney said the 3-year-old child had been hurt, but he didn’t have enough proof to prosecute.

On the tape, we heard Hill threaten the mother of his children with physical violence: “You need to be scared of me, too, dumb bitch.” He berates and belittles, calls her “bro” and “bitch” and of course, claims she ruined his life.

Denial of all wrongdoing is so standard in abuse cases that just a look at Thursday’s Star provides other examples, including that of Scott Hacker, the now former Parkville police officer charged with domestic violence after allegedly shooting his gun inside his home, throwing the woman who called 911 onto the couch, grabbing her by the throat and blaming her for “ending his career” by calling for help. Both before and after the cops arrived, he said he hadn’t shot the gun or touched her. But oops: A security camera in the living room apparently recorded the assault.

What Espinal was trying to get was the audio equivalent of that video.

If the NFL lets Hill back on the field this season, it will send the message that making threats and showing you’ve learned nothing from probation is no real problem, as long as you can run fast enough. The help he needs is not more denial, but just the opposite.

To the rest of you who are intent on seeing Hill as the victim, KCTV as a villain for not immediately releasing the full tape, and Espinal as a “manipulator” for wanting evidence to back her up in court, we could suggest some reading on the well-researched subject of abuse. But why, when you seem to prefer not to know?

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Would not.

[FAX]

It's not that she's merely a "hardliner" when it comes to sex and abuse cases (whatever a "hardliner" is).

She's actually been accused on several occasions of withholding or suppressing exculpatory evidence ... both prior to and during her stint with the NFL.

This is not a person who takes the pot off the boil.

FAX

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

or Mac & Cheese

Have been trying my damnedest to bring this to the mods' attention. I shall give you credit henceforth for the marvelous idea

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Naptown Chief

Would not.

i would take her out for drinks at monarch bar, dinner at plaza III, a romantic boat ride around the plaza, grab a hotel room and allow her to use my body in whatever way she pleased

that woman is an angel of mercy

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Wow, she spent 18 years specifically investigating sex crimes by Chiefs. That's commitment.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Looks like Elway's sister. Must have seen the same equine orthodontist...

[Sorce]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/media...tcy/index.html

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Sorce

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/13/media...tcy/index.html

[Hammock Parties]

tyreek wins again

[Halfcan]

After all the biased shit they pulled over the summer- I was not buying their $5.00 SuperBowl paper. They only jumped on the bandwagon to make money.

KC Star is the worst now.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

After all the biased shit they pulled over the summer- I was not buying their $5.00 SuperBowl paper. They only jumped on the bandwagon to make money.

KC Star is the worst now.

Ditto. Dead to me.

[FloridaMan88]

I am still a KC Star online subscriber (mostly because I am too lazy to cancel the subscription), and their Chiefs playoffs/Super Bowl content was a joke.

Their weekly content for regular season games 20 years ago (with Whitlock, Posnanski, Greg Hall, etc.) was 100 times better than the shit they were producing for arguably one the most historic events in Chiefs/KC history.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

After all the biased shit they pulled over the summer- I was not buying their $5.00 SuperBowl paper. They only jumped on the bandwagon to make money.

KC Star is the worst now.

Yep, I had no interest in their SB paper or their book.

[Bill Brasky]

My parents still get the rag and to my surprise, it's like $1200 per year. Like WTF? You could take the New York Times for that much money.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

My parents still get the rag and to my surprise, it's like $1200 per year. Like WTF? You could take the New York Times for that much money.

Yeah what a shock they're going into bankruptcy. Deliberately create an unsustainable price point designed to rob people who couldn't quite quit their paper habit, as you shrink the actual content down to pamphlet-sized. So you're pretty much guaranteed of a death spiral at this point even if your month-over-month revenues get a temporary goose when you raise the price.

Even my parents quit when it went up to $80/month. And they would have been happy paper readers for life at a sane price.

This is the vulture capitalist model. Squeeze every last drop of life out of a business then sell it off for parts - lining your pockets the whole way.