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Old 01-10-2021, 07:49 PM  
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Let's talk about the Cleveland Browns (Divisional Round)
A little surprised, but not THAT surprised.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:03 PM   #451
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The biggest part of Stefanski's system is masking QB flaws, not fixing them.

I do think Mayfield is better than Cousins but you're not going to see miracles out there.
Totally agree. But, and I could be wrong, as I've never spent any time really analyzing what Stefanski is trying to do beyond a basic Xs and Os level, I think it's like "NFL QBing for dummies," kind of thing. Break it down to a basic level, cut the field in half, whatever, give your QB fewer reads and thus decision to make, throw the ball to the first guy that's open. Let the play-makers be play-makers.

Which I think Baker really needed after the first two seasons of his career. Years 1 & 2 for Mayfield were almost like "here, for the next two seasons you aren't going to learn anything about how to be a QB except what little you can figure out for yourself, in-game in real-time."

He's basically had to start over, and he was two years in already at the start of 2020.

But my expectation is that ultimately Baker will be able to take Stefanski's system further than Kirk was able to, partly because he has a much better arm, and partly because I think he's probably going to end up being a better processor.

That second part is just a gut feeling at this point, and maybe fueled by my Sooners fandom, but I think I'm going to be right. We just won't see it until mid to late next season.

But as it stands right now, Baker is probably at least as good as Cousins overall, and he might already be better at running the offense.

His hard count is a disaster though. Really needs to work on that.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:04 PM   #452
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:06 PM   #453
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Are the media outlets hyping up the Browns and saying they have the perfect recipe with a strong running game to keep Mahomes off the field and beat the Chiefs?
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:07 PM   #454
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Are the media outlets hyping up the Browns and saying they have the perfect recipe with a strong running game to keep Mahomes off the field and beat the Chiefs?
Something like that. Everyone seems to have forgotten that CLE boasts one of the league's worst defenses.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:08 PM   #455
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The biggest part of Stefanski's system is masking QB flaws, not fixing them.

I do think Mayfield is better than Cousins but you're not going to see miracles out there.
Exactly this....

Same for Sean McVay and the Rams. When you build your system around the run game and bootlegs off of that, it's simply because you don't have a QB good enough to win games on their own.
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He's probably not wrong. I toyed with the idea of grabbing tickets yesterday at $300 each. Now they're going for more like $800. I have don't think it'll be a majority or anything, but there will be plenty of Browns fans. And who can blame them? I'd be excited too.
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He's probably not wrong. I toyed with the idea of grabbing tickets yesterday at $300 each. Now they're going for more like $800. I have don't think it'll be a majority or anything, but there will be plenty of Browns fans. And who can blame them? I'd be excited too.
It’s not about whether he’s wrong, it’s just everything always has a negative tone/vibe with him. That tweet might not be the perfect example, but even it gave me that negative vibe like always.
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Ever since I saw Lenny the cool to Otis Taylor and that defense.... I was hooked. Even when we sucked for DECADES. I couldn't switch teams. I have no idea how you can do that. I wished I could have done that in the 80's.
I am too young to remember the Dawson days. Imagine becoming a fan in the 80s, pre Marty. I still remember listening to them on the radio every Sunday. It would have been so easy to have become a Niners or Giants fan in those days. For some stupid reason I remained and still remain loyal to the Chiefs. I can't imagine following a player and rooting for whomever he plays for.
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Exactly this....

Same for Sean McVay and the Rams. When you build your system around the run game and bootlegs off of that, it's simply because you don't have a QB good enough to win games on their own.

That is not at all true. Do you think Mike Shanahan ran this system with John Elway because of a limited qb? This is how he wants to play.


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The Chiefs have never played the Browns in a playoff game.

Browns actually were pretty badass before the merger. Won 8 Championships form 1946-1964. That was before, uh, something crappy happened?
Browns and Chiefs fans can certainly exchange Marty playoff choke horror stories though.
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