Dontari Poe

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva
Sporting News' @RussLande on NT Dontari Poe: "Don't be shocked if Poe ends up being picked by the #Chiefs at No. 11."


Thoughts?

[ChiefRocka]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Well they can't just stack up at OLB.

They're going to need a DE or two to step up, and Houston to continue developing.

Bailey already looks like a nice replacement for Dorsey.

I love how young we are.


Put me in the Solai + OL group

[Chiefs Pantalones]

It's great that he has an impressive 40 time...because that matters for a NT if he's covering WRs. I'm more impressed with his strength.

[Fat Elvis]

Pick up Soliai and draft Poe; we could have one heck of a 5-2 defense (pretty much what the Texans run).

Bailey, Dorsey, Soliai, Poe, Hali
Houston, Johnson
Flowers, Berry, Lewis, Routt

[Shox]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

It's great that he has an impressive 40 time...because that matters for a NT if he's covering WRs. I'm more impressed with his strength.

Best in the entire combine - 44. Dude is STRONG.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

It's great that he has an impressive 40 time...because that matters for a NT if he's covering WRs. I'm more impressed with his strength.

When he's chasing down a runner fifteen yards towards the sideline and three yards behind the line of scrimmage, that speed will matter.

It also shows a quickness that is vital to us getting a pass rush up the middle.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

It's great that he has an impressive 40 time...because that matters for a NT if he's covering WRs. I'm more impressed with his strength.

Does anybody know his 10 yard time from those 40s?

Either way. To have a man that big, that strong and that athletic is pretty freakish.

Would like the deal better if we could trade down to get him.

Furthermore, I like the idea of signing a FA NT and drafting Poe. I think it'd be the smart move long term & you know you can't necessarily really on rookie D-linemen since it takes time to develop.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Shox

Best in the entire combine - 44. Dude is STRONG.

Yeah, but if he's getting pushed around at the LOS then you need to question how strong his core is.

Bench press is nice, but a strong core is far more valuable.

[Chiefnj2]

Here are the top bench-press results at the combine since 2000:

Paea: 49
Petrus: 45
Kudla: 45
Larsen: 45
Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia (2010): 44
Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State (2006): 44
Scott Young, G, BYU (2005): 43
Tank Tyler, DT, North Carolina State (2007): 42
Isaac Sopoaga, DT, Hawaii (2004): 42

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Pick up Soliai and draft Poe; we could have one heck of a 5-2 defense (pretty much what the Texans run).

Bailey, Dorsey, Soliai, Poe, Hali
Houston, Johnson
Flowers, Berry, Lewis, Routt

would love that for certain situations

geared to stop the run and still defend the deep pass

can Houston handle the increased responsibility?


Bailey, Dorsey, Soliai, Poe, Hali
Houston, Johnson
Flowers, Berry, Carr*, Routt

*

[DJ's left nut]

Plays with shit leverage, couldn't dominate mediocre competition. He's a workout warrior and little else. He's the Vernon Gholston of NTs.

I don't want him in the 1st at all. He's probably a 5-tech on this team anyway and frankly I'm tired of throwing picks at the position.

If we take Poe in the 1st, when they do the 'redraft' on Yahoo in 3 years, I'm betting we take some arrows. The kid has bust all over him, IMO. That's fine in the 2nd round, but not an acceptable 1st rounder.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by suds79

Does anybody know his 10 yard time from those 40s?

Have not seen official results, but someone over in the nfldraftcountdown forums reported his 10 yard split was 1.7

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/show...=51171&page=46

[suds79]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Plays with shit leverage, couldn't dominate mediocre competition. He's a workout warrior and little else. He's the Vernon Gholston of NTs.

I don't want him in the 1st at all. He's probably a 5-tech on this team anyway and frankly I'm tired of throwing picks at the position.

If we take Poe in the 1st, when they do the 'redraft' on Yahoo in 3 years, I'm betting we take some arrows. The kid has bust all over him, IMO. That's fine in the 2nd round, but not an acceptable 1st rounder.

That's fine if you're not a fan. I just don't get having the feeling that a guy absolutely stinks but would be okay with a 2nd on him.

Also, why do you say he's a 5-tech? With his body I'd think he's perfectly suited for the Nose.

[YayMike]

I'm probably in the minority, but I think I'd rather sign Soliai and draft Richardson.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Pick up Soliai and draft Poe; we could have one heck of a 5-2 defense (pretty much what the Texans run).

Bailey, Dorsey, Soliai, Poe, Hali
Houston, Johnson
Flowers, Berry, Lewis, Routt

Originally Posted by Laz

would love that for certain situations

geared to stop the run and still defend the deep pass

can Houston handle the increased responsibility?


Bailey, Dorsey, Soliai, Poe, Hali
Houston, Johnson
Flowers, Berry, Carr*, Routt

*

I would use it for a base defense and not just for special packages, and yes, I think Houston has matured a lot over the past year and can handle the added responsibility.

The thing with that particular lineup isn't just the fact that it would be stout up front, but it would be a bunch of freaks with incredible speed.

The front five amounts to over 1550 lbs of humanity--all of which can run a 5.1 forty or faster. We're not talking about a bunch of fat bodies flopping around, we're talking about mega-tonnage explosive firepower. Our defense could absolutely dictate what happens on the field.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by suds79

That's fine if you're not a fan. I just don't get having the feeling that a guy absolutely stinks but would be okay with a 2nd on him.

Also, why do you say he's a 5-tech? With his body I'd think he's perfectly suited for the Nose.

Because asking him to play a 2-gap 0-tech is to waste his athleticism. At that point, you're just looking for a fatbody. I think they'd prefer use him like Seymore and have him slide in/out on the line.

I don't see him as a 2-gap 0.

And I won't deny that he has a Seymore-esque upside, but the odds of him actually hitting that are damn remote. That's what makes him such a good 2nd rounder, but not a good fit for the 11th overall. You don't take risks that big that high unless it's on a QB, IMO.