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09-21-2018, 08:41 AM | |
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Justin Houston’s last year in KC?
I’m not an expert on these contracts, but could it be Houston’s last year here? His production has been awful and with two games this year with big leads and lots of down the field pass attempts by opposing QBs, Houston has no sacks. I think he has less sacks in the last 50 or so games than he did in the year before his contract, the big year with 22 sacks. His cap hit will decline dramatically next year. He might be gone. As a general rule, I think the chiefs should limit these large 2nd contracts. The motivation just isn’t there. The raiders were right to trade Khalil Mack. Here’s the info on Houston’s contract. Let’s hope Houston turns it around. We need him for a playoff run but if he doesn’t increase production, I think he’s gone.
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09-21-2018, 09:22 AM | #31 | |
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I expect a 10 sack season out of Houston. That's completely reasonable for a starting OLB. Especially one with getting paid that kind of coin. But a 10 sack season is nothing special. A 15 sack season? Now we're talking.
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09-21-2018, 09:24 AM | #32 | |
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So, in 2015 (the year Houston was injured) he played 11 games with 7.5 sacks. In 2016 he played 5 games and had 4.0 sacks. Of course he didn't put up "double-digit" sacks because he missed a significant amount of time across 2015-16 because of the injury. You know what he did do? Put up 11.5 sacks in the 16 games he did play. He had 9.5 last year, which is still really good. Even the best defenders in history didn't put up 10+ every year. Derrick Thomas had less than 10 sacks 4 times in his career. Lawrence Taylor 5 times. Et cetera. Give the guy this season and let's see what happens. If he doesn't produce sacks again then I'd be willing to have the discussion, but as of right now I'm giving Houston the benefit of the doubt. |
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09-21-2018, 09:26 AM | #33 | |
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It would've been good enough for 20th in the league last season. The 30th ranked OLB got 8 sacks. 8-10 is competent. Nothing special at all. I expect that he'll probably get that this season too. Which is ok. It's not bad. But it sure as **** isn't $20+Mill good.
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09-21-2018, 09:30 AM | #36 |
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To a large extent yes. But I doubt Houston would allow that. You'd have to extend the contract with the current contract in mind. I would guess we'd want to extend the years. Basically take his current contract and convert into bonus. For example... You could basically buy out his current contract for a $30m signing bonus over 5 years then pay significantly less base salary. The goal is to take his current expensive contract and spread it out over a longer time. Win win.
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09-21-2018, 09:30 AM | #37 |
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He's basically the whipping boy for the defense, the talk radio dudes are railing him for basically being a scrub so this will go on and on.
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09-21-2018, 09:31 AM | #38 |
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I see guys all the time try to compare Houston's season to Von Miller's last season, even though that was a down year for Von.
Pssst.....guess who's on top of the sack leader board in 2018? I'll give you a hint, he has a REALLY big contract but his name isn't Justin Houston.
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09-21-2018, 09:32 AM | #39 |
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Oh is that what's happening on KC radio these days? I see.
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Chiefs have a lot of leverage. Houstons hitting the point in the contract where the Chiefs can basically tell Houston to accept the new terms, or be cut. I think Houston wants to stay and he's definitely looking for long term contract security, not making a quick buck.
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He may not. I haven't seen the "unleash the hounds" defense that we heard about all offseason. Still a lot of playing it safe type of stuff. Houston was at his best when we had Hali also applying pressure and setting the edge opposite him and a defensive line that didn't get their shit pushed in. Jaye Howard and Dontari Poe were infinitely better than what's been there the past couple seasons.
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I think Houston needs to have a 10 sack season to stay on the team and i think that's exactly what he'll have.
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They can’t even begin to consider releasing Houston until Speaks or KPass show that they’re actually good players.
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09-21-2018, 09:35 AM | #45 |
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Yea phrases like
"I take the time to just watch him on plays and he doesn't do anything, he runs into the OT and just stands there, he's a bum" The narrative that he blows is being pushed really hard. Like yesterday Bob Sutton said he played a fine game and when they went back to the guys the first line was "a lot of disinformation out there at 1 arrowhead drive apparently" |
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