Looks like some in the Detroit Media want K. Hunt

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The Detroit Lions seemingly have a need for a second running back to pair with Kerryon Johnson. How should they go about the Kareem Hunt situation?

We all think that we can be a general manager or a head coach or an offensive coordinator. It’s easy to sit on our couches and wonder why Michigan isn’t more aggressive on offense or why MSU doesn’t hire a new play caller or why the Lions drafted that guy when they could have drafted that other guy.

It’s the issues of up or down, yes or no, in or out that are easy to judge from afar. But when the issues get a but more gray, it’s a lot harder to know what to do.

It’s easy to stay on the moral high ground when you’re watching from the side. It’s decidedly harder when you’re competing against 31 other teams that might be more willing to swim in the deeper end of the pool. Nobody condones Kareem Hunt's physical assault against a woman in the video that surfaced in December. The images were so raw that the Chiefs terminated his contract within hours of the video’s release.

If Hunt were five years older and his effectiveness was dwindling, he’d be out of the league for good. But Hunt, 23, was just finishing his second season, so a future clearly remains in the NFL.

NFL: Kansas City Chiefs at Denver Broncos
Dec 31, 2017; Denver, CO, USA; Kansas City Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt (27) before the game against the Denver Broncos at Sports Authority Field at Mile High. Mandatory Credit: Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports (Photo: Isaiah J. Downing-USA TODAY Sports)

Bears head coach Matt Nagy pushed this agenda forward last month when he said that he believed in second chances and wouldn’t rule out the Bears pursuing Hunt in the off-season. Nagy was the offensive coordinator in Kansas City prior to getting the Bears head coaching job, so this news isn’t shocking. But Nagy just finished his first year, so it’s a pretty bold stroke to put that out there, unless of course he has the blessing of management or ownership.

Nagy is 100 percent right about one thing: Nothing should be ruled out. This holds true for the Bears, the Lions and any other team in the NFL. If you start making determinations about players before you even investigate their cases further, you’re shortchanging yourself.

It’s like major college recruiting. If Princeton is going up against Alabama for a 5-star player, Alabama has the edge in every way. Not only are they a better program, but they also have lower standards for admission and they can offer full athletic scholarships. Princeton isn’t on equal footing with Alabama therefore will never compete with them.


The Lions are on equal footing with the Patriots, the Rams, the Bears and every other team in the NFL, even if their history doesn’t show it. They abide by the same rules, the same salary cap and the same standards. If the Lions choose to sign only a certain type of player and steer clear of any possible character issues, they won’t stand a chance to move into the upper echelon of the league.

I have no idea what Bob Quinn thinks of Kareem Hunt. I do know that Quinn said the day he was hired in 2016 that he’d have a zero-tolerance policy against players involved in domestic violence cases or a dangerous weapons offense. Later that summer, he signed tight end Andrew Quarless, who was arrested in 2015 after he reportedly fired a gun into the air outside a nightclub after an altercation with a woman. Quinn later admitted that he never should have used the term “zero-tolerance,” and I respect him for his retraction. This is the NFL, not Harvard Law School. You are looking for the best players, not the best of the best. And yes, there is a difference.

I’d have a hard time with the Lions making a move for Hunt for all the obvious moral. But I also know that when you’re filling a 53-man roster with professional football players, you’re not going to do so entirely with choir boys. There will be some bad seeds. Some of their warts will be public. Some will be hidden. Some might become public at an inopportune time for the team.

Some of you will dismiss this as a clear double standard. You wouldn’t allow Hunt to date your daughter, so why would you want him on your football team? If that’s your take, I can’t say that you’re wrong. But I’d also say good luck totally embracing the NFL because you’re going to be rooting for a lot of different players that you might not want dating your daughters.

Quinn gets paid a lot of money for his job and feels a lot of pressure to get things done, especially coming off of two seasons that ended without a playoff berth. I don’t feel sorry for him because he knew what this job was all about when he took it. Just understand that as he looks to push this team up, he may have to take some chances that don’t make him or you very comfortable. That’s the price of doing business in the NFL these days.

If you don’t like it, you need to find another sport. Because it’s not changing.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

And when Hunt does something like this with Mahomes in his company? Somebody could have gotten hurt, even Hunt. You don't want Mahomes around anybody that resorts to physical violence every time things go bad. Hunt allegedly assaulted not one, not two, but THREE different people, in one offseason.

So, you're saying that Mahomes should keep his helmet on when out with Hunt... Love it! Let's sign him.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It absolutely was the best for the team. He's a head case and a liar. You don't want that anywhere near Mahomes.

Are you suggesting there are zero "head-cases" and/or "liars" on the team currently?

Hunt will be signed very quickly and will have a choice of teams/offers from which to choose. If the Clark could swallow his pride for a minute, the Chiefs should be one of those teams. We are clearly open to providing second chances.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Are you suggesting there are zero "head-cases" and/or "liars" on the team currently?

Hunt will be signed very quickly and will have a choice of teams/offers from which to choose. If the Clark could swallow his pride for a minute, the Chiefs should be one of those teams. We are clearly open to providing second chances.

None that we know of.

Let's not pretend the public nature of this has nothing to do with it.

If the Chiefs want to sign him back on, fine with me.

If they don't, I understand why. Again, fine with me.

I don't give one care about Kareem Hunt at this point. He made his own bed.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

None that we know of.

Let's not pretend the public nature of this has nothing to do with it.

If the Chiefs want to sign him back on, fine with me.

If they don't, I understand why. Again, fine with me.

I don't give one care about Kareem Hunt at this point. He made his own bed.

He'd instantly be the best back on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have shown they are great with providing second chances. It seems like a no-brainer.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

He'd instantly be the best back on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have shown they are great with providing second chances. It seems like a no-brainer.

He lied to the team. There'd have to be some serious improvement in his life for them to consider it. What has he been doing during this time? Going to rehab? Making himself better? Or sitting around waiting for the phone to ring?

It isn't as simple as "he'd instantly be the best back" on the team. They don't NEED him. He's a luxury they could possibly afford, if HE is up to it. Not them.

[O.city]

The Chiefs gave him his second chance, and third, and fourth. Everytime they asked him about the incident, he lied.

It's not all about "just talent". Move on.

[O.city]

There are literally 4 or 5 good running backs in every single draft class. Pick one in the 3rd round and move on.

[Eleazar]

Running backs are a dime a dozen.

There's no need for Clark Hunt to come crawling back to someone who has had a litany of off-field incidents in a very short time and lied to his coach, owner, etc., about what happened. There's no reason to trust Kareem Hunt that it won't happen again. He clearly has issues, is facing a long suspension, and would be facing a very long suspension if he had another incident.

There's nothing wrong with a team having standards of character they expect players to abide by. There are plenty of good players out there who meet them. Everyone else can go play for the Raiders or Bengals. (Cause low character guys are working so well for those teams...)

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

He'd instantly be the best back on the Chiefs. The Chiefs have shown they are great with providing second chances. It seems like a no-brainer.

Several of my Bears fan friends are salivating at the thought of signing him. I have one texting me often wanting more info and history on Hunt. I guess they are making a connection with Nagy.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by O.city

The Chiefs gave him his second chance, and third, and fourth. Everytime they asked him about the incident, he lied.

It's not all about "just talent". Move on.

Everybody seems to forget that he lied to them multiple times and was involved in multiple violent outbursts while drunk.

He is also a RB. They are easy to replace. Look at what Williams was able to do for **** sake.

Hunt absolutely deserved to be kicked to the curb and humiliated by that act. It took a ton of balls to do that regardless of what some mouth breathers think. Keeping the stud and benching him is the bitch move.

And this absolutely is about Mahomes & The Chiefs, not just the player Mahomes. The Chiefs with Mahomes are the future of NFL marketing. They have to remain an upstanding team that has little to zero drama off the field.

**** KHunt. **** him for being a moron. **** him for being selfish. **** him for being an immature child still in diapers.

[notorious]

RBs have always flourished in Reid’s offense.

**** Hunt. He threw away the perfect team to build a HOF career at.

Chiefs will be just fine without that piece of shit.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by baitism

Cutting him was the easy way out. It appeased the media and the SJW hivemind. It was not what was best for the team.

You sound like a dick.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Are you suggesting there are zero "head-cases" and/or "liars" on the team currently?

Hunt will be signed very quickly and will have a choice of teams/offers from which to choose. If the Clark could swallow his pride for a minute, the Chiefs should be one of those teams. We are clearly open to providing second chances.

We already had the league's ultimate headcase...

[Pitt Gorilla]

What if Pat wants Hunt back?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

What if Pat wants Hunt back?