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Old 01-01-2018, 09:26 AM   #1
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The evil perpetrators were female. So it's social justice messaging when women are good guys (Star Wars) and social justice messaging when they are bad guys (Bright)? Or is the concern that Elves hate Orcs and persecute them? Or is the concern that Orcs are supposed to be persecuted because that's the natural balance (Elf Power!)?

There are three classes of "people" in this movie, and humans are in the middle. Is the social justice messaging that humans are the lapdogs of the elves? That humans treat Orcs as badly as the elves (Orc Lives Matter!)? Or that the Orcs deserve it for serving the Dark Lord?

Are we seriously being offended by a fantasy movie? Are we snowflakes?
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:32 AM   #2
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The evil perpetrators were female. So it's social justice messaging when women are good guys (Star Wars) and social justice messaging when they are bad guys (Bright)? Or is the concern that Elves hate Orcs and persecute them? Or is the concern that Orcs are supposed to be persecuted because that's the natural balance (Elf Power!)?

There are three classes of "people" in this movie, and humans are in the middle. Is the social justice messaging that humans are the lapdogs of the elves? That humans treat Orcs as badly as the elves (Orc Lives Matter!)? Or that the Orcs deserve it for serving the Dark Lord?

Are we seriously being offended by a fantasy movie? Are we snowflakes?
Being a fantasy movie doesn't mean it can't have a point of view. I don't know if it makes you a snowflake or not, but I reserve the right to be annoyed by storylines I find offensive whether it's because they're overly preachy, or based on an obnoxious premise, or just stupid. The culture war is real and it doesn't just take place on PBS and at the university.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:33 AM   #3
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lol

So what's the offensive point?
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:35 AM   #4
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lol

So what's the offensive point?
I didn't find it offensive. I'm able to tolerate the level of leftwing moralizing most movies contain. I just thought the "it's just a fantasy movie" was a worthless excuse.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:38 AM   #5
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So you are SJW defending the viewpoint that the movie has a SJW bent, and yet you don't know what it was? Yay for you!

Let's all reserve the right to be offended by everything and bitch and moan about it while we're sharing stories about our periods! Yay!
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:39 AM   #6
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Better yet, let's turn this thread into a Star Wars fight! Yay!
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So you are SJW defending the viewpoint that the movie has a SJW bent, and yet you don't know what it was? Yay for you!

Let's all reserve the right to be offended by everything and bitch and moan about it while we're sharing stories about our periods! Yay!
Whatever. It's just foolish to suggest that you can't push an agenda through a fantasy movie. Maybe some people just can't see that.
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:53 AM   #8
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My point, which I thought was rather obvious, was that taking offense to any agenda in this movie takes a ridiculous level of reach and requires an immense level of fear or paranoia.

What's foolish is to see an agenda around every corner. Because...aliens.

Seriously. Please tell me what the agenda is.
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:00 AM   #9
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My point, which I thought was rather obvious, was that taking offense to any agenda in this movie takes a ridiculous level of reach and requires an immense level of fear or paranoia.

What's foolish is to see an agenda around every corner. Because...aliens.

Seriously. Please tell me what the agenda is.
You can't see the blatant racial messaging and social commentary in that story? It's there from go. Are you sure you're being honest here?
I don't need to be hit over the head with agenda messaging when watching a comedy or sci if or anything else.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/27/chan...bright-racism/

http://www.filmjournal.com/reviews/film-review-bright


http://www.dailycal.org/2017/12/25/b...is-will-smith/
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Old 01-05-2018, 09:46 AM   #10
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You can't see the blatant racial messaging and social commentary in that story? It's there from go. Are you sure you're being honest here?
I don't need to be hit over the head with agenda messaging when watching a comedy or sci if or anything else.

http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/27/chan...bright-racism/

http://www.filmjournal.com/reviews/film-review-bright


http://www.dailycal.org/2017/12/25/b...is-will-smith/
"Bright, directed by David Ayer (Suicide Squad)..."

Oh. OK, thanks. Now I know not to bother trying to watch this.
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My point, which I thought was rather obvious, was that taking offense to any agenda in this movie takes a ridiculous level of reach and requires an immense level of fear or paranoia.

What's foolish is to see an agenda around every corner. Because...aliens.

Seriously. Please tell me what the agenda is.
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Old 01-01-2018, 10:38 AM   #12
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My point, which I thought was rather obvious, was that taking offense to any agenda in this movie takes a ridiculous level of reach and requires an immense level of fear or paranoia.

What's foolish is to see an agenda around every corner. Because...aliens.

Seriously. Please tell me what the agenda is.
Devil's advocate here. The evil 1% elves were all white. All of the white human cops were cartoonishly racist against the orc cop and wanted to kill him and the black cop first chance they got.

But as far as actual criticism, this movie felt like bad Shadowrun fan fiction.
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Thought it sucked tbh. The director (David Ayer) is so hit or miss for me. I can't believe this is from the same guy that directed Fury & End of Watch (two excellent films ) and then he shits the bed with Suicide Squad & Bright. Very puzzling .

And I saw that Netflix has a sequel ready for Bright...smh.
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It's always about race with you people. It could just as easily be about caste systems in general, such as India's or medieval feudal lords, nobles, merchants, and peasants.

Stop being a snowflake. Damn cucks.
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It's always about race with you people. It could just as easily be about caste systems in general, such as India's or medieval feudal lords, nobles, merchants, and peasants.

Stop being a snowflake. Damn cucks.
I see. You are being willfully obtuse in the hopes of normalizing the agenda.
Not going to work.
Did you even read the links?
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